Much better. Footnotes are the worst¹, kill them with fire. ¹There's no way to tell in advance if the note is valuable, so you always check. Then you have to scan back to find where you were originally reading. Inline notes at least fixes half of the problem.
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Hmmm. I don’t personally find going down and back particularly tricky or unpleasant.¹² I do hate endnotes with passion for the same reason, though. ¹ At least on paper. Screens are another matter altogether. ² I would put footnote digit *after* punctuation, but that’s just me!
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Replying to @mwichary
I find them bad UX for the same reasons they'd be bad UX on the web.
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Replying to @jaffathecake @mwichary
At least on the web they can hyperlink back to their place in the text!
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Replying to @Orangetronic @mwichary
Exactly. Although an expand/collapse system, or a togglable tooltip mean you don't need to be jumping up & down the page at all.
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Replying to @jaffathecake @Orangetronic
Agreed. The jumping up and down stresses me out since it never gets the scroll position back in the right place. I did an implementation once that was a tooltip on big screens and expands on small ones and it felt really nice.
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Oh, it’s here (unfinished/unreleased page, but the links felt pretty good): https://aresluna.org/freelance/ Felt particularly good about the mobile expando stuff, how it scrolled etc.
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Replying to @mwichary @Orangetronic
I like this. Although it feels like the tooltips should also activate on focus.
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Replying to @jaffathecake @Orangetronic
Oh, interesting. Yeah. I never finished this fully.
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I’ve (elsewhere) done a slightly better Daring Fireball-esque pagenotes, too, once (with smooth scrolling, remembering your exact scroll position via JS, and eliding stuff at the bottom you’ve already seen) – it didn’t feel *awful*. But it was clearly paper on screen.
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What was surprising to me in that was how much smooth scrolling helped in understanding that the page scrolled up and down. In general, I wish browsers treated # changes in a smoother way, but that ship probably sailed long ago.
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