@jensimmons @slightlylate Do you know if anything’s on the docket for this in web frameworks? I agree it’s become an interaction scourge.https://twitter.com/dawnxianamoon/status/1054647696622080001?s=21 …
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This tweet reports a crash. Unclear what to make of that. Script-driven pages make it very hard for the browser to understand location in the app. Presumably the correct answer was for the app to do a fragment update as you scroll to capture it and make restoring possible.
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My thinking was that the native web framework itself could come with those things built-in, so it’s impossible to screw up. I have a sense this never gets built – it definitely feels it never gets built, even *Google Search itself* started failing here recently –
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– because it’s hard? cumbersome? broken windows theory? But if it came pre-packaged already…
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I hope that makes sense?
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(Another common UI failure is that most of these make it impossible to distinguish whether a “forever stream” finished its run, or whether it’s still loading, or whether there’s an error. Could handling this be supported better by the browser chrome itself?)
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So there *is* work happening on something like a built-in virtual scroller: https://github.com/valdrinkoshi/virtual-scroller … I think
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Ivan Čurić Retweeted Nicole Sullivan
Anything related to https://mobile.twitter.com/stubbornella/status/1050787448538595330 … ?
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Nicole Sullivan @stubbornellaReplying to @CharlieCroom @_baxuz @reactjs@brian_d_vaughn,@ojanvafai,@graynorton,@chrishtr and@domenic are designing that. With a little assist from some folks at twitter who know a thing or two about virtual scrolling. ;) Send me all your weird use cases or examples of scrollers we should take into account!1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
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Yup, that’s the one. It sounds like the desired behavior is not to see content visibly refetch/rerender when you come back to them? Anything else?
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I’m so excited for this. Here are some considerations I have when designing that kind of stuff: a) is it possible to design it so it fires loading new items at the right distance, so it feels smooth and you never bounce off of the bottom edge
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b) is it possible to have a (subtle) loading indicator c) is it possible to have an “end of stream” indicator
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d) if things go wrong/slow connection, is there an error message? Can I retry manually without reloading the whole page?
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