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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 2 Jan 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Jeffrey Flier

      One problem is the people telling us to just “follow the science” rarely seem to understand the interaction between things science can and has resolved and the unknowns and trade-offs that cannot be resolved by appeals to “The Science.” They’re often using science as a talisman.https://twitter.com/jflier/status/1345417443909500931 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      Jeffrey Flier @jflier
      Could not agree more with this statement by @MonicaGandhi9. I’ve been doing science for 45 years and find public/media use of “follow the science” to be shallow and counterproductive - deployed to suppress needed debate on issues that require it. https://twitter.com/MonicaGandhi9/status/1345297748451463168 …
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      Jeff‏ @musicpsych 2 Jan 2021
      Replying to @zeynep

      In context though, "follow the science" has meant to take measures like wear a mask, wash your hands, limit indoor activity. It's been intended to contrast with magical thinking like "it'll go away on its own" and "it's not any more severe than the flu."

      11:08 AM - 2 Jan 2021
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        2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 2 Jan 2021
          Replying to @musicpsych

          No it hasn't. When I first suggested "wear masks", I got months of accusations that I was anti-science. Similar with trying to get people to focus on indoor activity. It's like you're making my point better than I can!

          5 replies 2 retweets 93 likes
        3. Lora Kolodny‏Verified account @lorakolodny 2 Jan 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @musicpsych

          witnessed it @zeynep how you were treated. and how & where science education + communication failed.

          0 replies 0 retweets 9 likes
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        1. Paolo G. Giarrusso‏ @Blaisorblade 2 Jan 2021
          Replying to @musicpsych @zeynep

          The correct heuristic, IMHO, is “(usually) follow scientific consensus”, but this is MUCH harder to explain and implement. For more nuance: “you’re unlikely to know better unless you put in the work” — and @zeynep did.

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