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And no, WhatsApp backups aren't end-to-end encrypted, to all of the people in my mentions incorrectly assuming that. If they were, they'd ask you to set an encryption key when you backup...pic.twitter.com/RMF60w8fqg
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"Manafort was backing up information from his WhatsApp to to Apple’s iCloud, where data is not encrypted and is thus available to police armed with a valid search warrant."https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/zm8q43/paul-manafort-icloud-whatsapp-bad-opsec-witness-tampering …
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Well, *technically* it still is end to end encrypted, the ends just fail horribly
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Well it's still encrypted with the phone key when sent to Google Cloud.
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Test case : Get another phone and try to restore the messages from the backup. If that works, your phone key has nothing to do with it.
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Did that. You need to have access to the old phone. Or the sim card.
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and they likely store the encryption key on the sim card, right? Suure… very obvious that they do that…
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Being able to transfer a SIM card to a different phone and still gets all your messages "decrypted" sounds shady to me... Wild guess: they save the ICCID of your SIM and the IMEI of your phone and if you can provide either "passcode", you get your *unencrypted* messages back.
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Well I can think of some SIM credentials key can be part of decoding key. But oh well, forget what I said.
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yeah, why even bother adding bad SIM stuff (whatever) encryption, when you can just store it in plaintext LOL
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let's separate the use cases. WhatsApp is a fair for protecting legit content, when the who and when is not important. Signal will address additional privacy needs.
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Just stop using
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It's not so secure... The desktop version has been already exploited
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It hasn’t on mobile, there’s telegram too but why you would trust a company owned by Facebook to provide secure messaging services is beyond me. WhatsApp CEO left because Facebook wanted to weaken the encryption.
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Where do you read that I trust whatsapp?
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If.....you don’t trust whatsapp.....do you use it for end to end encrypted convos? I’m confused here. But, wanted to drop this in here.https://slate.com/business/2018/06/facebook-whatsapp-turmoil-takeaway-mark-zuckerberg-cant-be-trusted.html …
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I don't use whatsapp, I don't see where I wrote that I use whatsapp
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You can't restore them to another number because they are binded with it ...added protection is the pin and email requried to restore (pin)
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buuuuuut… that's still not e2e encrypted.
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It's not... Because restoring won't work if it is
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