The general point that we do restrict speech stands, though, as does my point that I believe power to be the principle we should emphasize.
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I'm pretty libertarian on free speech. I think anything that's not slander/libel or clear incitements to violence should be protected
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The march yesterday was explicitly about intimidation. The problem with that standard is that the terms you're stating are hard to define.
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But the word "intimidation" is much more vague than incitement as spelled out by the Brandenburg test http://freespeechdebate.com/case/the-brandenburg-test-for-incitement-to-violence/ …
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I mean, it's fairly obvious in this case, given that their words/intent were explicit. It's vague in general, but so is what you linked!
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We can't get away from some amount of vagueness here. The question is about what goal you think we should be striving for.
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Under this standard, what would prevent a GOP politician from declaring socialist rhetoric "incitement" and suppressing it on that ground?
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Or "intimidation," or whatever you're using as the operative word to justify curtailment of speech.
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The same "nothing" that prevents that politician from making nonsensical claims now, under your definition of speech. That's my point.
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There's no way to definitively prevent abuse of these or any other principles 100% of the time. So our policy should aim at the right goals.
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I'd want to see what policy is being proposed.
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Fair point. I don't currently have a specific proposal, so I'll have to think about it. I acknowledge it's not the easiest endeavor.
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That said, the basic principle is: the more power you have, the more restrictions one can put on your speech to protect the less powerful.
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