When did the Russia-Georgia conflict happen? Hint: 2008
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Replying to @mtracey
Was more so referring to annexation of Crimea, shooting down of plane, crackdown of journalists, oligarchical rise, etc.
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Replying to @JohnSurico
"crackdown of journalists" & "oligarchical rise" well predates BHO's first term. "Oligarchs" were brought to power under Clinton
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Replying to @mtracey
For sure. I'd argue that it was centralized and made a part of Russian governance in later years.
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Replying to @JohnSurico
There's not been such a dramatic change that it would've warranted a total reversal of US posture since 2012.
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Replying to @mtracey
Where do we place the "threatening the EU order" under? That's not too drastic, I guess.
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Replying to @JohnSurico
"Threatening the EU order" is a total vagary. That was claimed during the Georgia episode as well.
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Replying to @mtracey
That's not a Democratic point or Republican point I'm making, either.
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Replying to @JohnSurico
"Threatening the EU order" is a uselessly malleable concept. BHO did the same by going to the UK and campaigning against Brexit.
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Replying to @mtracey
To even put those on the same scale - or to even think that counts as undermining any sort of order - is remarkable.
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I'm putting them on the same plane to demonstrate why "undermining the EU order" is a uselessly vague concept.
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Replying to @mtracey
The stability and rules of an institution, or "order," are very real, and tangible.
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