if the outcome has desirous effects, then the factors which gave rise to that outcome shld be secondary or tertiary concerns
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Replying to @mtracey @adamjohnsonNYC
Does that mean you condone xenophobia? No. It just means that xenophobic elements which might be temporarily vindicated...
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... don't need to dictate the final calculus as to whether Brexit will bring desirable effects.
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Replying to @mtracey @adamjohnsonNYC
If xenophobes are vindicated, that's an undesirable, but short-term problem. Brexit outcome arguably good in the long-term.
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Replying to @mtracey
well, intent matters. And while the act itself may be good in theory it can't be divorced from forces that brought it about
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Replying to @adamjohnsonNYC
it *can* be divorced, people are just refusing to do so because invested in the campaign itself
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I don't think so. Don't think it's a cosmetic pivot. Those on right who pushed the referendum now have a mandate
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Replying to @adamjohnsonNYC @mtracey
The right partly campaigned on stuff like increasing funding to NHS though.
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Replying to @gingerhutter @mtracey
u just described fascism. Thats its entire gambit: nominal social protection combined w/militarism+racism+nationalism
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Boris Johnson is a twat but he's simply not a fascist. That does not describe his political philosophy.
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Replying to @mtracey @gingerhutter
I wasn't using that argument to say it's fascism, only to say increasing NHS funding doesn't make something left.
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Replying to @adamjohnsonNYC @mtracey
Does mean the referendum expressed anxieties the left can productively address.
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