@mtracey But hang on - media elite has sustained anti-EU sentiment for 30 yrs unless you somehow count Rothermere Murdoch etc as non-elite.
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@Mje51 There can be fractures within the elite but broadly speaking Remain was favored by the UK's political, cultural, and media elite -
@mtracey I just don't buy that as a record of last 30 years. How much more "elite" can you get than Johnson, Murdoch, Telegraph, Moore, etc. -
@Mje51 You deny that Remain had the support of a vast majority of political, cultural, and economic elites? -
@mtracey Yes I do. The word "elite" doesn't mean "reads the Guardian." -
@Mje51 That's not what I'm taking it to mean. -
@mtracey then I think we're lost cos it sure sounds like it. -
@Mje51 "Elite" is by necessity an over-simplification. There are of course traditionally eurosceptic Tory elites. - Show more
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@meNabster@mtracey@Juzwik Have you heard some Brits blame everything on foreigners who choose to make the UK their home? SMH. -
@TanyaKasim@mtracey@Juzwik That's divide and conquer intox PR from the Tory#Murdoch team and@TheSun newspaper. -
@wavemich43@meNabster@TanyaKasim@mtracey@Juzwik@TheSun Not just there, the. Mail . Telegraph,.etc -
@Casper10666@wavemich43@TanyaKasim@mtracey@Juzwik@TheSun At the last minute, the Mail supported#Remain after decades of bigotry. -
@meNabster@Casper10666@TanyaKasim@mtracey@Juzwik@TheSun never read the rag nor the scum aka sun
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@wavemich43@meNabster@TanyaKasim@mtracey@Juzwik@TheSun But they should be held to account.........for the lies and incitement. - Show more
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@mtracey Some truth to that. However, those ordinary people let demagogues fool them into hitting at the scapegoat EU instead of the Tories. -
@graygoods Now the real campaign against the Tories can begin. Much was on hold due to the unique circumstances of the referendum. -
@mtracey Labour supporters who voted Leave acted like shooting their own leg off to get rid of an infected toe. 8-/ -
@mtracey You may think the shortterm advantage against the Tories outweighs the serious longterm consequences. I don't think so. 8-/ -
@graygoods I think the short-term disadvantages are likely outweighed by the long-term advantages. EU falling apart in any case. -
@mtracey You appear to me like yet another US journo who has no real clue about EU issues. Are you even aware Corbyn is in dire straits now? -
@graygoods Thanks, I'm familiar with EU issues. Corbyn has faced a mutiny since last Sept. He still has support from Labour rank-and-file. -
@mtracey Corbyn supported Remain. How can you cheer for Leave, then? This doesn't make sense. - Show more
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