A fascist seizing control of the US presidency *would* in fact be "world-historic," given the awesome, unparalleled power of that office.
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@mtracey Crises come as a surprise to the naive and unprepared. Just because US has been stable for 150 years doesn't mean it will remain so -
@andrewthesmart Agree with that.
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@mtracey Michael why is "world historic" the only form of fascism? are you straw-manning this discourse? -
@kfrydl "World historic" because a fascist takeover of the US would represent unprecedented in power in the hands of fascists, no? - View other replies
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@mtracey as you know Berlusconi did tremendous harm to judiciary & Italian economy; still not "world historic" in sense of "takeover" -
@kfrydl I would say that a Berlusconi type assuming the US presidency would qualify as "world historic" due to the power of the office. -
@mtracey i see what you're saying.
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@mtracey oh, that's a bad style of argument to make on the internet, especially if you have a job. Or a nervous system. -
@quinnnorton Eh, I'm just probing the content of people's beliefs. As we do. - View other replies
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@mtracey actually, *that's* really hard to do in this format, which is reactive, performative, and small. -
@quinnnorton Hard, but possible. I find it fascinating in this format, actually. Often leads to interesting truces. -
@mtracey but it's almost certainly not the best use of your time and emotional energy.
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@mtracey and what if you're wrong and the people shouting "fascist" are in actuality the fascists? -
@YungNamek That should lead people to question whether Trump really is in fact a world-historic fascist menace. - View other replies
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@mtracey I don't think these protesters are asking questions, or interested in any dialogue, and that's the problem -
@YungNamek That is probably true to a large extent. -
@mtracey I was at depaul last week for Milo & most of those protesters weren't interested in dialogue either, just make-believe activism -
@YungNamek yes because if there's one thing fascists are interested in it's a frank and honest exchange of ideas. fuck out of here,
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