His foreign policy has been a mess numerous other respects, and we're in a sad state when "credit" must be allocated to a president for doing the bare minimum of not starting new wars. But again, still notable -- whether you want to acknowledge it or not
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By this point in his presidency Obama had already started the Libya war and surged massively in Afghanistan, both of which were disasters. He later started the Syria regime change op, the Yemen catastrophe, and Iraq War 3.0 (which, by the way, is still illegal)
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None of this excuses other aspects of Trump's foreign policy which have been bad (going to the brink of war with Iran this summer was absurd) but it's still a historically notable point of reference
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Still time for him to start a race war though. Buckle up
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The left is doing a pretty good job of that all by themselves.
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not for a lack of trying...forgetting he hired Bolton in the first place and has surrounded himself with neocon hawks...hes tried to overthrow the venezuelan govt and lobbied to invade the country multiple times...he continues to up the conflict in Afghanistan
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hes bombed Syria twice...he has upped the drone program to levels never seen before with no regard for civilian casualties. his first raid as pres killed an 8 year old US citizen, meanwhile he continues to do everything in his power to hurt Iran and force them to instigate us
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And yet thoroughly rehabilitated, cool guy George W. Bush seems to get a pass for his. Did you see him give Michelle candy? ZOMG IT WAS SO CUTE
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And I think it’s fair to say had Hillary been in Whitehouse at a minimum we would be openly engaged in Syria and most likely have attacked Iran, though who knows if it would have been a full out war.
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It makes the rehabilitation of Bush particularly obscene
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We don’t know this for sure, because we don’t know the extent of the “gloves off” license he’s given to the covert parts of the military. New wars? Extensions of old wars? Much is hidden.
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there isn't a shred of difference between obomber and trump other than style, which i guess is all that matters to those inclined to vote for one corrupt party or another - they're all bought and blackmailed to do the bidding of the oligarchs, hence absolute fealty to israel.
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imo he tries.. he is the 1st pres to try to do all he said when running ..agreed it is a low bar
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By this point under Obama, 3 year in, we were "leading from behind" in Europe's Libya fiasco
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Yes! Up to now, this has been his top achievement: bullying the World, without starting a war. Bravo. And in the process, showing that Established Democrats are the evil warmongers.
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Practically savant at it for an American leader
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I actually think his foreign policy has been quite brilliant. Oh and he’s an anti war guy.
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Definitely believe he leans more towards stay out of other countries affairs but then hires policy position makers around him that are neocons with cold war mentality like Bolton was and Pompeo. 100% believe that the reason we are not all in Venezuela is due to Trump's pushback.
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Shocked someone on the left finally acknowledges this. Trump has been superb in at least not starting any new wars, that alone is enough to vote for him these days!
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He will in a second term though. If he's not a neocon then the other neocons around him will pressure him to. Bolton was only part of the problem. Elliot Abrams and Mike Pompeo are still there.
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