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    Michael Tracey‏Verified account @mtracey Jul 10
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    Michael Tracey Retweeted Edward Luce

    Biden said this a few days ago. It has no basis in reality. Even if the abolition of NATO is your preferred outcome, you should have no hope that Trump will bring it about. Trump is full of empty rhetoric on this subject. Nothing has changed policy-wisehttps://twitter.com/edwardgluce/status/1148571957471916032 …

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    Anyone who thinks a Trump second term wouldn’t result in the end of NATO is not paying attention. There is no such thing as an ally in Trump’s world - just fools to be used and discarded.
    5:02 PM - 10 Jul 2019
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      1. Joanne Leon‏ @joanneleon Jul 10
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        If anything, European allies have taken advantage of Trump's berating of them to vent their grievances or pretend to vent grievances when really they want to continue to benefit from the same kinds of war profiteering and exploitation due to their NATO/empire partner status

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      2. Dan Kervick‏ @DanMKervick Jul 10
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        I think what he is suggesting is that the United States under Trump is becoming such an erratic, dangerous and destabilizing ally that the Europeans will begin to rush for the exits and form a new alliance if he is re-elected. It doesn’t matter what Trump initiates himself.

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      3. Dan Kervick‏ @DanMKervick Jul 10
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        You can tell many - though not all - in Europe are at their wit’s end over the Iran situation, which is insane. You might be right, but it’s hard to predicts. Things could rapidly unravel in a crisis.

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      1. Bart Vargas‏ @BartVargasII Jul 11
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        Ya the whole dog and pony show Trump and NATO play where they pretend to hate each other is cute...meanwhile, ever increasing budgets, troop levels, arms sales, and military exercises/buildup along Russia's border...

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      1. Eileen Dewey‏ @LetheEileen Jul 10
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        You're both wrong.

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      1. Slanderous‏ @ESlanderous Jul 10
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        We don't need NATO! It was created as a deterrent for the USSR, now it's used as muscle to strong arm sovereign nations...

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      1. Dylan‏ @Dylanleidig Jul 10
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        NATO won’t be ended. Those countries know we will continue to be the piggy bank. If we seriously threatened to pull out they would claim to increase their spending and buy more time.

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      1. P. Mark Potanas‏ @PPotanas Jul 10
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        Except that most of the allies have upped their $ contributions a bit. Germany is still a major laggard though

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      1. Heathroi‏ @heathroi Jul 10
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        it definitely won't be Trump bringing it about. It will be Paris and Berlin inquiring how soon the US can leave. I'm guessing as soon as brexit date is announced

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      2. Koen‏ @KoenSwinkels Jul 10
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        It's not just in Trump's world that there are no allies. For the US empire there are no allies, only vassals.

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      3. Joanne Leon‏ @joanneleon Jul 10
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        I disagree. Their only real gripe is they're not the big boss. Without NATO how would France, for example, enjoy empire partnership status and maintain their war profiteering & imperial mindset? Real vassals don't get to use the mothership to take down countries like Libya.

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      1. MicMars‏ @IAmMicMars Jul 10
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        Presidents don't shape history, events shape the office...NATO is dying, and has for decades. You know nothing about this topic, Mr Tracey. https://zeihan.com/life-after-nato/ …

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      1. Chnty‏ @Dreaddcp Jul 10
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        moot point, anyone who is knowledgable enough to not bow down to propaganda to see NATO as an inherent good knows that Trump will not leave NATO or dismantle it or whatever nonsense

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      1. JDS‏ @JDS44894884 Jul 10
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        Not entirely empty. He does seek and has gotten a greater degree of parity among the member states

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      1. b‏ @bernie20204eva Jul 10
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        I wish trump got out of NATO

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