The views of the Dem Party-aligned intelligentsia have shifted dramatically on this issue in a short period of time. That's why I asked what the operating principle was supposed to be. According to many, the principle is now that any border enforcement is inherently illegitimate
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That's a fine principle to espouse but it should be defended in public without reflexively resorting to sloganeering, overheated moralistic posturing, and "shutting down" anyone who might have reservations around the margins. The online commentariat does not seem capable of this
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Parsing rapid changes in elite opinion, which inevitably has a downstream effect on public policy, is a valid mode of journalistic inquiry and I'm going to continue doing it even if people insist on immediately ascribing bad faith, shouting "fascism," or getting bizarrely angry
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I have a standing offer to engage on the substance with any online critic who believes I'm evil for whatever reason. (Not to "debate," to converse.) This offer is almost never taken up. Which is unfortunate, because it reflects a broader resistance to good faith engagement
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No one is obligated to engage with me directly. However, in a pluralistic democracy do you do have to engage with people who might not share your principles. The way this issue is talked about, especially online, makes that increasingly impossible
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How about starting with due process:https://twitter.com/ACLU/status/1146197732228567040?s=19 …
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I'm all for due process, but that doesn't resolve the underlying question of what legal status these people should be granted, or whether any border enforcement measures at all are justified
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It requires the international organised working class to dismantle the nation state and capitalism to do properly so that's what we should be aiming for.
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It has nothing to do with ‘emotionalistic slogans’ and everything to do with a UN refugee treaty which the US is party to.pic.twitter.com/2oDJa4pMXK
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Yeah but then what do you do when some one crosses multiple safe countries to get here? If we are the first safe country, that makes sense. Beyond that is seeking better economic opportunity.
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No it wont, who fucking cares if chuds get mad, they are mad 24/7 anyway
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What's the difference between emotional and emotionalist and emotionalistic? Please write an emotionalisticle with pros and cons.
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I'm absolutely against that. At JFK, many get released for claiming I'm fleeing xxx whter it's true or not, and they don't return to court. We now have 1 million illegal residents, and nyc's population is 8 oir 9 million. Can't deny its impact on low wage jobs & tight housing.
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Also, release and then what? How are they gonng eat? By obtaining illegal employment? The idea is emotionally charged, not based on reality.
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The "Left", sponsored by banks and corporations is ready to kill the few unions left and completely destroy the middle class....
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Do they not see that Trump has backed them into an untenable position? Open borders will not fly.
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Moldbug predicted this is in 2008. It might not happen this year, but it WILL happen https://www.unqualified-reservations.org/2008/05/ol7-ugly-truth-about-government/ …
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I’m glad this has all come to light. Let the politicians stake out the actual positions and policies that they are advocating and let the people decide in 2020. Emotional statements and appeals are fine so long as they are backed up by policy so everyone can see the differences.
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Michael: You rub at a scab that imbued our broader political discourse. Emotion based argumentation devoid of reasoned policy solutions creates further chaos and solves no problems (makes them worse). Even myriad US Congress Members are invested in it (why Cong. fails on much).
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