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    Michael Tracey‏Verified account @mtracey Jul 4
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    I was inundated yesterday with activists and journalists proclaiming that they now demand conditions-free release of all detained migrants and total border abolitionism. If that's your position, OK, but it's going to require more than emotionalistic slogans to defend it in public

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      2. Michael Tracey‏Verified account @mtracey Jul 4
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        The views of the Dem Party-aligned intelligentsia have shifted dramatically on this issue in a short period of time. That's why I asked what the operating principle was supposed to be. According to many, the principle is now that any border enforcement is inherently illegitimate

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      3. Michael Tracey‏Verified account @mtracey Jul 4
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        That's a fine principle to espouse but it should be defended in public without reflexively resorting to sloganeering, overheated moralistic posturing, and "shutting down" anyone who might have reservations around the margins. The online commentariat does not seem capable of this

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      4. Michael Tracey‏Verified account @mtracey Jul 4
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        Parsing rapid changes in elite opinion, which inevitably has a downstream effect on public policy, is a valid mode of journalistic inquiry and I'm going to continue doing it even if people insist on immediately ascribing bad faith, shouting "fascism," or getting bizarrely angry

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      5. Michael Tracey‏Verified account @mtracey Jul 4
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        I have a standing offer to engage on the substance with any online critic who believes I'm evil for whatever reason. (Not to "debate," to converse.) This offer is almost never taken up. Which is unfortunate, because it reflects a broader resistance to good faith engagement

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      6. Michael Tracey‏Verified account @mtracey Jul 4
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        No one is obligated to engage with me directly. However, in a pluralistic democracy do you do have to engage with people who might not share your principles. The way this issue is talked about, especially online, makes that increasingly impossible

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      2. Stacy O'Neill  ⏳‏ @StacyOh64 Jul 4
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        Stacy O'Neill  ⏳ Retweeted ACLU

        How about starting with due process:https://twitter.com/ACLU/status/1146197732228567040?s=19 …

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        BREAKING: We just won due process rights back for asylum seekers. A federal court just ruled the Trump administration cannot arbitrarily detain people exercising their legal right to seek asylum without a hearing.
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      3. Michael Tracey‏Verified account @mtracey Jul 4
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        I'm all for due process, but that doesn't resolve the underlying question of what legal status these people should be granted, or whether any border enforcement measures at all are justified

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      1. libcom dot org‏ @libcomorg Jul 4
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        It requires the international organised working class to dismantle the nation state and capitalism to do properly so that's what we should be aiming for.

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      2. Dril Kafka (sicko mode)‏ @RuairiWood Jul 4
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        It has nothing to do with ‘emotionalistic slogans’ and everything to do with a UN refugee treaty which the US is party to.pic.twitter.com/2oDJa4pMXK

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      3. NoriNY  🐘 🐼 🐨 🐻 🐰 🐣‏ @Nori_NYC Jul 4
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        Yeah but then what do you do when some one crosses multiple safe countries to get here? If we are the first safe country, that makes sense. Beyond that is seeking better economic opportunity.

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      1. Ghouls Mad (x24)‏ @lib_crusher Jul 4
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        No it wont, who fucking cares if chuds get mad, they are mad 24/7 anyway

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      1. Crapulous incomprehensibilitude‏ @mattwill9 Jul 4
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        What's the difference between emotional and emotionalist and emotionalistic? Please write an emotionalisticle with pros and cons.

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      2. NoriNY  🐘 🐼 🐨 🐻 🐰 🐣‏ @Nori_NYC Jul 4
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        I'm absolutely against that. At JFK, many get released for claiming I'm fleeing xxx whter it's true or not, and they don't return to court. We now have 1 million illegal residents, and nyc's population is 8 oir 9 million. Can't deny its impact on low wage jobs & tight housing.

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      3. NoriNY  🐘 🐼 🐨 🐻 🐰 🐣‏ @Nori_NYC Jul 4
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        Also, release and then what? How are they gonng eat? By obtaining illegal employment? The idea is emotionally charged, not based on reality.

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      1. Branimir Aleksandrov‏ @BatByann Jul 4
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        The "Left", sponsored by banks and corporations is ready to kill the few unions left and completely destroy the middle class....

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      2. Griddle Actual‏ @JimmyGriddle Jul 4
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        Do they not see that Trump has backed them into an untenable position? Open borders will not fly.

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      1. Tom Creo‏ @tomfcreo Jul 4
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        Moldbug predicted this is in 2008. It might not happen this year, but it WILL happen https://www.unqualified-reservations.org/2008/05/ol7-ugly-truth-about-government/ …

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      1. Golgo 13‏ @JamesRoberta7 Jul 4
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        I’m glad this has all come to light. Let the politicians stake out the actual positions and policies that they are advocating and let the people decide in 2020. Emotional statements and appeals are fine so long as they are backed up by policy so everyone can see the differences.

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      1. Wes King‏ @WKLBC89 Jul 4
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        Michael: You rub at a scab that imbued our broader political discourse. Emotion based argumentation devoid of reasoned policy solutions creates further chaos and solves no problems (makes them worse). Even myriad US Congress Members are invested in it (why Cong. fails on much).

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