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Michael: An "in the know" source who I heard in a talk last year opined that we would never completely abandon at least a toehold in Afghanistan. Reason given: a "garrison" and entry point against any incursion by China in the direction of the Greater Middle East. Interesting pt.
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China's Belt and Road initiative. Eurasian integration. Our leaders think we need a presence there to interfere with China's plans. When we establish a military presence, when do we ever leave?
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As much as I would love them all home tomorrow, it's more complicated than just packing up our shit and leaving. I wish it wasn't.
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I just wish we would have never gotten involved in the middle east
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That sounds like it's true, but when we complained that Obama wasn't closing Gitmo we were told that he couldn't do that on his own.
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I wish we had a strong intelligence presence *here.*
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He could but the military, foreign policy establishment elites and media wouldn’t let him to do it. It makes you realize that the president isn’t as powerful as we tend to believe.
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How are they stopping him?
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I'm open to the idea that it is more complicated than simply packing up and leaving.
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It's absolutely more complicated than that. Trump is having to deal with a complete failure of having an exit strategy by Bush and Obama.
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We were told 17 Saudis attacked us, not Afghanistan. And 18 years later were still there. I simply don't understand how anyone could think this is helping anything.
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CIA pressure? Military weapons contractors?
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Ultimately, Trump’s a company man. The MIC, especially the CIA, can rest easy — as long as the billions and non-stop growth keep continuing.
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Immediate withdrawal would be irresponsible. Do they leave their local allies, abruptly, all alone?
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