In a triumph for US political discourse, @benjaminwittes and I were able to convert our prior Twitter rancor into a productive conversation about the Mueller Report, collusion, the media, and where we differ on those subjects. It was pretty interesting!https://www.patreon.com/posts/26649926
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I'd also like to point out that despite our sizable differences, Wittes and I both agree that Mueller *did* in fact investigate collusion, which you can apprehend by reading Page 180 in Volume I of the Mueller Report. So, Twitter nitwits can put that in their pipe and smoke it
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Here's the YouTube version. Subscribe, or face the consequenceshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEvfK4ZdQS4 …
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I particularly commend Wittes for self-reflecting on the utility of his well-known Twitter slogan "BOOM," which he used to amplify some stories which proved to be untrue. Nonetheless, as he makes clear, the "baby cannon" lives on
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think this might be the first good-faith, extended discussion between "collusion skeptics" (roughly speaking) and "collusion advocates" (roughly speaking) since the Mueller Report
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There's no consequences anymore for swerving off the path of rational debate. In fact, people get their own TV shows if they're good at going troppo.
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1. Michael, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE write about the new allegations that Russian intel gave Steele misinformation. That seems to be the new Cold War narrative that both Dems and Repubs will seize on eventually.
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2. Margot Cleveland has a piece up today saying that either Steele outright made up stories, OR it was Russian disinfo. That's a convenient narrative for Cold War hawks--the Republicans are eating it up. BUT.
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4. Can't locate the story now, but I remember that one of Steele's Ukrainian informants said that Steele had basically asked people for gossip and confabulation (said he'd sent Steele a genuine report but Steele wanted something juicier).
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A tendency displayed by you, Glenn, & Aaron, that has contributed to the breakdown: Each of you has the habit of psychoanalyzing your interlocutors, i.e. making bold assertions about their motives, what's going on in their subconscious, etc. This is incredibly condescending.
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3. Maybe I'm wrong, but didn't (1) Steel pay his sources; and (2) his sources inside the Kremlin were likely covertly anti-Putin, else they wouldn't be Western assets; (3) some of them may have wanted to do the Clintons a favor by inventing collusion; and (4) (next tweet)
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5. So Steele's Russian informants had plenty of reason to lie without the Kremlin/GRU/Putin telling them to do so.
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Michael, One of the themes of your (and Glenn's Aaron's , etc.) Twitter feed has been that the media lacks of self-awareness & honesy self-evaluation. So why aren't you able to consider the possibility that *your* tone and tactics have contributed to this breakdown of dialogue?
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Have you considered that he might have considered it and concluded that the answer is no?
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