Watched the Sam Seder/Tracey debate. Honestly the entire thing felt cringe, from all sides. It’s difficult to determine a winner when both participants have such huge flaws in their arguments and focus. Obviously my position is closer to Tracey’s but still it was a rough watch
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In fairness, I thought you technically came out looking better, you kept your calm and Sam did not but the way you framed the argument and spent so much energy on Wheeler I thought was a total waste of time and was frustrating to watch and as you know I also have criticism of her
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My tweet about Wheeler was ostensibly the whole reason I was invited on in the first place. How would you characterize Wheeler's conduct at this point?
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I don't know if it's anything more than a 'brand' but Robbie's sister & Seder both belong. Both Robbie & Abby's politics are a long way from Seder's apologias for Democratic party corruption but there might be social friendliness that blinds Robbie from seeing Seder too clearlypic.twitter.com/mtnYZWsfpl
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Not that this is a pissing contest but I noticed you used an outdated Ring of Fire banner that did not include Lee Camp who has technically been consistently debunking Russiagate and Russia hysteria longer than Michael (as has Abby as well).pic.twitter.com/Tip93AQslK
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Seder is great at those fox news style rhetorical tricks, where he badgers you about answering the question and wont let u speak, after you clearly have answered. Zero good faith on his part to start with. Wont admit how russophobic & russiagate-focused the show was(is)
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Seder is used to speaking into a mic that doesn't talk back or challenge him
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I went and listened. The incessant interrupting made it hard to stay in there. Didn't make it to the end.
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Best not debate a host on their own show.
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No because you started the conversation by trashing a guest of his and saying you didn't want to just call in like another schmuck listener. You couldn't even answer a yes or no question. Jesus find something better to do with your time.
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Notice Tracey doesn't acknowledge why Sam may have been a bit upset from the start
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That's true but you could have just said the investigation was still worth doing. The issue is not that it happened but that it was blown out of proportion by the media (including Sam Seder). You would shut him up with this argument, had you conceded this point
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But the investigation wasn't worth doing. The basis for the investigation was a lie perpetuated by the Clinton campaign... Both the book Shattered and the email leaks prove her campaign created Russiagate as a distraction to avoid an autopsy of her campaign.
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Bro that question was also about how you "felt" about the investigation. He was setting you up to talk on an emotional standpoint.
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It was a loaded question to set him up for Seder to deflect from the garbage that was Russiagater...bro
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Didn’t see it, but understand your point of view. Have seen similar “debates” in the past, where one participant shouts over the other, or continually changes the topic, but both sides are blamed for the poor quality of the event.
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You tried to have a legitimate debate, discussion with Sam Seder?
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I know MT was also refusing to be railroaded by Sam's idiotuc questions , while Sam never 1nce said " i was 100% wrong" That woulda smoothed things over but Sam aint for that
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