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    Michael Tracey‏Verified account @mtracey Jan 9
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    Still haven't gotten an answer to this: If Democrats now think that any physical border barrier is intrinsically immoral, should the existing physical barriers (several hundred miles) be torn down? It's not a troll question -- it's an attempt to identify an operating principle

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      2. Nualpha Omegam‏ @NualphaOmegam Jan 9
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        If you destabilize the refugees' country of origin, you have an obligation to take care of them:https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/dec/07/crisis-of-honduras-democracy-has-roots-in-us-tacit-support-for-2009-coup …

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      3. Nualpha Omegam‏ @NualphaOmegam Jan 9
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        https://www.amazon.com/Eating-NAFTA-Policies-Destruction-Mexico/dp/0520291816 …

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      2. Jesús Gringo (Mexican Jesus)‏ @ElJesusGringo Jan 9
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        1) It's 100% a straw man argument. No one said get rid of the official border crossings/points of entry and just let everyone in. They're saying asylum seekers should be granted a hearing not turned away. They're saying don't demonize hard working immigrants as criminals/rapists.

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      3. Jesús Gringo (Mexican Jesus)‏ @ElJesusGringo Jan 9
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        2) There is some serious hypocrisy among Democrats who supported building fences that won’t work while mocking Trump for wanting a wall that won’t work. But, kidnapping children while deporting their parents is not the equivalent morality of wanting border checkpoints in general.

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      2. Aintropy‏ @Aintropy Jan 9
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        In our system, the executive is all that matters. So if you don't have the executive, you oppose everything hoping to make the president unpopular so your side can win the presidency. Giving the other side "wins" is the worst thing you could ever do even at expense of country.

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      3. Aintropy‏ @Aintropy Jan 9
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        That's why 98% of things are the same as Obama but both parties have flipped on every issue.

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      2. Ben Spielberg‏Verified account @BenSpielberg Jan 10
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        Despite what they say, the actual operating principle unfortunately happens not to be a moral one for most of them, the painful obviousness of which is very helpful for Trump.

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      3. Josh Black‏ @JoshABlack84 Jan 10
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        How come nobody’s acknowledged the fact that even if Congress did cave & give him the funding for it it wouldn’t happen anyway??

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      2. ClemMedia  🧢‏ @JonClem310 Jan 9
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        I'm sure they don't want to tear down the Walls in their own homes🙄

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      3. shit on a stick‏ @Donnys_Diarrhea Jan 9
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        I tore the walls out of my house a few days ago, and it's a little colder now, but I'll be fine. I realized that I literally couldn't think a wall along the border was the dumbest fucking thing I've heard in my life and still live in house with logical consistency. Thanks!

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      2. James Flood III‏ @jamesfloodiii Jan 9
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        Oh, you must have missed the latest memo. It's not the immorality of the wall; it's now THE COST. Democrats opposed to profligate spending. Right.....

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      3. Blake Brown‏ @CFieldofDreams Jan 9
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        As they approve $25 billion going to other countries to protect their borders.

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      2. George‏ @jitotweets Jan 9
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        Democrats and operating principles go together like salmon and peanut butter

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      3. saj9291113‏ @saj9291113 Jan 9
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        I threw up thinking of that combination

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      1. 𝐓𝐡𝐞 𝐃𝐞𝐬𝐢𝐠𝐧 𝐅𝐥𝐚𝐰‏ @TheDesignFlaw Jan 9
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        "Operating principle"? Good one, Michael.

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      1. Full_on_Cynic‏ @Full_On_Cynic Jan 9
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        principles lol... stop man... you are killing me :)

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      2. RealEDdoc‏ @realEDdoc Jan 10
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        It’s an issue of functionality and expense. There are places a physical barrier is a useful adjunct to other border security mechanisms. But spending a few million on high traffic areas versus a few Billion that will have virtually zero effect makes it immoral.

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      3. Fraz Ahmed Ismat‏ @fismat Jan 10
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        Actually, the way I understood the “morality” arguement was in absolute terms. Definitely needs clarification.

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      1. FiNk ™️‏ @MikeFink82 Jan 9
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        This is a perfect example of an obvious question that real journalists ask which require a principled answer, but MSM journos never ask them, therefore politicians are never forced to answer.

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