no they dont man they allow access to people at their discretion who follow their rules and guidelines and give them control over their personal information. you apply for an account at facebook just like you apply to membership of a private club
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Replying to @cd_hooks
Anyone can sign up for Facebook, and then they can be ejected for violating certain rules and guidelines. Anyone can enter a public park, and then they can be ejected for violating certain rules and guidelines.
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Replying to @mtracey
wrong. signing up on facebook is contingent on approval of your application from the facebook corporation, after you've signed a legal agreement and delievered a buttload of personal information to their custody. only very shitty public parks do this
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homie when was the last time you signed a EULA to use a public park
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Replying to @cd_hooks
Lots of public parks have signs posted outlining which behaviors are acceptable and unacceptable within the park, which you must adhere to or face ejection. There are also lots of laws and ordinances governing conduct in the park that you implicitly agree to by entering
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Replying to @mtracey
so what im hearing from you is that the answer is "never"
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Replying to @cd_hooks
You're right, you don't agree to a literal user agreement but you agree to something that is analogous in the context of public parks.
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Replying to @mtracey
you're not making the point the point you think you are making. it is true that in all places, man is subject to laws. the question is the conditions under which we can gain access to a place. i don't think you can dispute that fb is more like a country club than a public park
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Replying to @cd_hooks
I do dispute that. I think it's much closer to a public park. Country clubs are avowedly exclusive and don't purport to be accessible to the general public, whereas FB is by design accessible to the general public.
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Replying to @mtracey
you keep saying "accessible to the general public" when you mean "has many members and is easy to join." the two are not the same. facebook is also exclusive, and getting approval to join facebook is conditioned on you allowing the company to leverage you to make money
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OK. The general point is that the "public square" conception, I think, allows greater opportunity for democratic oversight and control to be exerted on these oligarchic behemoths. That's what fundamentally animates my position. Anyway, interesting discussion and have a good day!
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Replying to @mtracey
no michael it wasn't an interesting discussion. it was a massive waste of time. making the case that facebook should be broken up or regulated is in no way contingent on thinking alex jones shouldn't have been banned, and it's powerfully bizarre to conflate the two
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