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    1. YankeeGunner‏ @YankeeGunner 22 Jun 2018
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      @mtracey I’m a regular @wethefifth listener. I went into it with no previous exposure to you or your opinions but I came out so disappointed in your reliance on whataboutism and false equivalency.

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    2. Michael Tracey‏Verified account @mtracey 22 Jun 2018
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      I'm disappointed in the reliance of so many internet commenters on bogus notions of "whataboutism" and "false equivalency." I never asserted equivalency, and the reason for invoking Obama wasn't to deflect blame from Trump. It was to emphasize the systemic quality of the issue.

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    3. YankeeGunner‏ @YankeeGunner 22 Jun 2018
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      But then I feel you had a burden to emphasize that this child separation is far more cruel and traumatic than the result of deportation proceedings or regular criminal prosecutions. We agree the latter is bad. But the former is so much worse and you seemed to ignore that. Also...

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    4. Michael Tracey‏Verified account @mtracey 22 Jun 2018
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      How do we know for sure that a child separated in the past month suffered greater harm than a child separated in 2012?

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    5. YankeeGunner‏ @YankeeGunner 22 Jun 2018
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      Because a deportation proceeding takes time. During that time children and parents aren’t separated. In se cases there are family members in the country who can take the child. There’s time to plan for the care of the child and to attempt to place them in appropriate environment.

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      Michael Tracey‏Verified account @mtracey 22 Jun 2018
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      The notion that children separated between 2009-2017 all received appropriate care is unsupported. And as I mentioned, my qualm is not with the activists and interest groups who were vocal about this in the past. It's with the arbitrary selectivity of the wider media.

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        2. YankeeGunner‏ @YankeeGunner 22 Jun 2018
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          And ordinarily I’d agree except that I believe (as I’ve stated) that what’s happening in this case is genuinely barbaric and much more so than what was done previously. So to dismiss the current coverage as hypocritical ignores that difference in my opinion.

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        3. YankeeGunner‏ @YankeeGunner 22 Jun 2018
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          And yes, of course the media is going to treat trump differently. But I think you now see that everywhere without considering whether, in certain cases, the difference in treatment might be something more than mere hysteria or agenda

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