Yeah. A lot of the “shocking” language people are citing sounds like the same crap I heard from random dudes at college parties. And the idea of certain women giving you status as a man started in middle school. https://twitter.com/wyrd_dragon/status/990695323310977024 …
(I should say “girls”. The first time I remember actively trying to call out what I’d now dub incel-related behavior was in 6th grade. I was either 11 or 12.)