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Great question! My understanding from Fred Turner's work is that Californian ideology has always promised individual freedom with one face and supported authoritarian forms of power with the other. Do you see a shift in substance or primarily in narratives?
I fear tech nationalism is what comes after the Californian ideology, the material basis for it is already there, and we (“we”) will look back fondly on the years when “our” main worries were re: attention and discoursehttps://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/23/palantir-ceo-alex-karp-defends-his-companys-work-for-the-government.html …
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I see a shift in both, probably too complex to tweet through! But short version: diminishing returns to ad-centered “attention economy” + new developments in cloud, ML > shift (materially) to more large contracts w gov’ts and (discursively) away from 90s libertarian anti-statism.
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If 2016 splits the Californian Ideology into the new tech left and the new tech right, it still seems to be an open question what dominant form that new tech right will take—Thielite “national conservatism” is a possibility, but there are others
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(this shift is also the subtext of so much of the hate-love for China coming from Thiel et al.)
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I agree! I co-wrote a bit about how states are manifesting that nationalism for
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thx—will read this with interest!
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@moiragweigel , tech nationalism and its relation to right-wing/ethno-state politics is already apparent in many places, including India and China. Whose right-wings are connected to our own. Thought this might interest you: (Part 1, China w.@fangkc )https://player.whooshkaa.com/episode?id=450968 … -
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@PranavDixit) : https://player.whooshkaa.com/episode?id=540966 … We've been saying this for awhile, with proof but no one will listen. Hope you will! We have an article pitch (got good feedback from media folks) as well if these podcasts interest you or@bentarnoff - Još 1 odgovor
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there's a funny parallel w/ historical left-wing thinking, where the belief that an inevitable historical force (in this case networking technology) would whither away the power of the state is replaced with a belief that the state must be penetrated & co-opted on its behalf
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