Michael Tsai on Twitter: "@mbarriault That was me. I didn’t intend to only collect against. In fact, some are from +1 replies. And I include the proposal’s co-author."

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Casey Liss ‏@caseyliss Jul 18

Casey Liss Retweeted Daniel Jalkut

I’m… not keen on the idea of final by default. Do not want. http://mjtsai.com/blog/2016/07/17/swift-classes-to-be-non-publicly-subclassable-by-default/ … I side with @danielpunkass:https://twitter.com/danielpunkass/status/754818323708317696 …

Casey Liss added,

Daniel Jalkut @danielpunkass

"Not all classes make sense to subclass." It's absurd to imagine you can predict all valid subclassing patterns. http://mjtsai.com/blog/2016/07/17/swift-classes-to-be-non-publicly-subclassable-by-default/ …
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Mike Barriault ‏@mbarriault Jul 18

@caseyliss Is there a conveniently collected list of quotes arguing for externally final by default?
Casey Liss ‏@caseyliss Jul 18

@mbarriault @mjtsai’s writeup is relatively even. The one I linked in my tweet.
Mike Barriault ‏@mbarriault Jul 18

@caseyliss That's not even. That's almost entirely against, and ignores that it was the community consensus, not big boss Apple.
Michael Tsai ‏@mjtsai Jul 18

@mbarriault I don’t see how you could read the discussion and think there was consensus.
Mike Barriault ‏@mbarriault Jul 18

@mjtsai There must've been if they accepted the proposal. The whole process was based on consensus. I've now read the arguments against...
Michael Tsai ‏@mjtsai Jul 18

@mbarriault Lattner acknowledged that there was *not* consensus among the community, so they were going with what the core team wanted.
Mike Barriault ‏@mbarriault Jul 18

@mjtsai Fair enough, but furthering the fact that clear the for arguments must've been as well-formed as against. I just want to read them
Mike Barriault ‏@mbarriault Jul 18

@mjtsai Someone's collected against nicely in one thread so I don't have to dig through the mailing list. Only looking for the opposite.

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@mbarriault That was me. I didn’t intend to only collect against. In fact, some are from +1 replies. And I include the proposal’s co-author.

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