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    1. Mircea Macavei‏ @mistermircea Mar 12

      Mircea Macavei Retweeted William Minshew

      Stoicism is a philosophy of action; it aids one to discern properly in order for one to act virtuously. My sense is that many who espouse stoicism get ego-attached to the first part, as a mindset prop, and forget the second part, which is the entire point.https://twitter.com/wminshew/status/973246585227259905 …

      Mircea Macavei added,

      William Minshew @wminshew
      Replying to @mistermircea
      Ok so my objection is to: "...byproduct of being solely responsible for your life and everything in it." Based on my reading of meditations, a stoic would strongly disagree. Namely luck plays a huge role, and we must strive to live with it while mini. its psy. effect on us
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    2. Mircea Macavei‏ @mistermircea Mar 12

      Trying to control what is out of your control is not being responsible, it's being foolish, because you are literally not response-able. Nothing you do makes a difference. As Frankl said, "When we are no longer able to change a situation we are challenged to change ourselves."

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    3. Mircea Macavei‏ @mistermircea Mar 12

      If you cannot discern between what you are responsible for and what you are not then you can't be responsible. Letting go of things you can't control is done in order to enable you to focus on those you can. If the point of it were to reduce stress we'd be in hedonist territory.

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    4. Mircea Macavei‏ @mistermircea Mar 12

      I object to Stoicism being sold as an attitude enhancer, as a productivity boost, as mindset medicine. Stoicism is about establishing a truer way of relating with reality, whether it be agreeable or disagreeable; not a way to ward off or rationalize the disagreeable parts.

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    5. Mircea Macavei‏ @mistermircea Mar 12

      There is no virtue without responsibility, and if either of those were stress-free, everyone would be doing it. The fact that reality does not conform to our preferences is precisely what necessitates both.

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    6. William Minshew‏ @wminshew Mar 12
      Replying to @mistermircea

      I agree with everything up until the last part. I can only speak for myself, but anecdotally once I accept that my responsibility in a situation is simply to do the best I possibly can (rather than control for an outcome), I find ~99% of the stress melts away

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    7. William Minshew‏ @wminshew Mar 12
      Replying to @wminshew @mistermircea

      Most of my early life stress, again anecdotally, came from an over focus on outcomes, many of which I had very little influence over. The framework of asking oneself, "Am I being as true as I can be to what I believe here?" is, once practiced, not inherently stressful (for me)

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    8. William Minshew‏ @wminshew Mar 12
      Replying to @wminshew @mistermircea

      It is more focused on meditation and reflection than tension or strain

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    9. Mircea Macavei‏ @mistermircea Mar 12
      Replying to @wminshew

      Mircea Macavei Retweeted Mircea Macavei

      What you're saying is true and I agree, but your definition of stress is getting very narrow.https://twitter.com/mistermircea/status/876697427931213825 …

      Mircea Macavei added,

      Mircea Macavei @mistermircea
      Freedom of outcome is the mind of opportunity; It allows for maximum creativity and resourcefulness and minimum anxiety and fear.
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      Mircea Macavei‏ @mistermircea Mar 12
      Replying to @mistermircea @wminshew

      It seems your frame of reference is yourself only. When you are responsible for others, and they depend on your judgment and actions for their well-being, things get more complicated.

      1:25 PM - 12 Mar 2018
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        2. William Minshew‏ @wminshew Mar 12
          Replying to @mistermircea

          William Minshew Retweeted Mircea Macavei

          Yes, I agree that is my FoR. But what kind of responsibilities may one take for another? Certainly there are many (more for younger children), but can one truly take full responsibility for another without venturing into the out-of-your-control territory?https://twitter.com/mistermircea/status/973284837099532295 …

          William Minshew added,

          Mircea Macavei @mistermircea
          Trying to control what is out of your control is not being responsible, it's being foolish, because you are literally not response-able. Nothing you do makes a difference. As Frankl said, "When we are no longer able to change a situation we are challenged to change ourselves."
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        3. William Minshew‏ @wminshew Mar 12
          Replying to @wminshew @mistermircea

          Perhaps my overly narrow definition of stress is obfuscating my opinion here. I am not sure, but think you may be right. Something can certainly be hard without being stressful, and take effort/time/concentration/willpower.

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        4. William Minshew‏ @wminshew Mar 12
          Replying to @wminshew @mistermircea

          The term mental anguish comes to mind, but I have difficulty defining stress beyond that without explicitly using the word unnecessary. It is a state of mental pain. But because the pain itself is never involved in solving the problem, it is almost wholly unnecessary.

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        5. Mircea Macavei‏ @mistermircea Mar 12
          Replying to @wminshew

          Psychological stress is mostly self-created and unnecessary. But not all of it is. The pain is involved because the pain is an indication, an impetus, and a catalyst. Humans generally won't solve a problem until not solving it is more painful than solving it.

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        6. Mircea Macavei‏ @mistermircea Mar 12
          Replying to @mistermircea @wminshew

          In the original post I referred to stress as the byproduct of taking responsibility - you don't choose to lessen the pain, but to bear it, and work with it. Removing it entirely, as is succumbing to it, both extremes, don't serve a purpose at all, apart from prolonging it.

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