So you couldn't see "the self" but you could see what comprises the self.
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Replying to @IntegralStory
I see what you are saying and intellectually I can even agree. But it's not an intellectual matter, because it's not a matter of the mind.
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Replying to @mistermircea
These discussions are maybe entertaining but fundamentally meaningless, in my view. The problem is that they can also be misleading.
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Replying to @mistermircea
My view: Know your mind first. This requires awareness. The more aware you become, the less you identify with the mind/thought phenomenon.
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Replying to @mistermircea
There is no difference between self and awareness in definition or experience.
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Replying to @mistermircea
All awareness springs from the mind... all self springs from the mind.
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Replying to @IntegralStory
To define something is to differentiate it. That is the mind, not awareness. When you are in a state of non-differentiation, who are you?
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Replying to @mistermircea
You don't define things, things define themselves. You attach meaning to relationships and patterns and that meaning is a "definition"
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Replying to @IntegralStory @mistermircea
Every word is subject to all words and definitions known by the person, the amalgam of which is "the self" and a mirror of existence
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Ok. Maybe you're right. I can't argue with what you say because my position has no absolute definitions. Intellectually that's a problem.
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Replying to @mistermircea
My whole point is not to give you a different definition than what you have. It is to point out to you that there is more than definitions.
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Replying to @mistermircea
For me that was something that happened as a necessity, but for you it might very well not be the case. Don't get me wrong.
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