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Iconoclastic. Polyamorous. GitHubber. Pronouns: him/his. I say we take off and nuke the patriarchy from orbit. It’s the only way to be sure.

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    1. Sarah Mei‏Verified account @sarahmei May 5
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      ALL I WANTED WAS RAILS NEW: A 50-step saga in which I have two things: 1. an idea for an web app 2. a laptop that hasn't seen rails development since 2016 >_<pic.twitter.com/4L2fNi4Q2c

      Steps 1-20 of a very long saga of getting the latest ruby and rails. First iterm has to update. Then I can't remember what ruby version manager I was using. Then I don't know what version of ruby I need. THEN I don't know what version of ruby works with the latest rails. Then I get a mysterious readline error when I finally figure out all those things...
      Steps 21-39 of a very long saga of installing the right ruby and rails to make a new app. I try exporting things and passing options to rvm to compile with. I try updating brew. Everything's broken!! In desperation I google the error message and find a github issue from 2016 that tells to brew update bash. Seriously?? My shell is out of date?? Ok, I'm desperate, I'll try it. Then I try installing ruby again...
      Steps 40-49 in which I finally find some success! Ruby installs! But now how to I get Rails? Gem install? bundler? gemsets? no idea. Let's just try the basic - gem install rails. It installs 38 gems. Yep, sounds about right. "rails new" finally works...just as I run out of energy for the night. :(
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    2. Sarah Mei‏Verified account @sarahmei May 5
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      Just to short-circuit a certain type of reply: YES, I clearly should have googled the error message sooner🙄

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    3. Sarah Mei‏Verified account @sarahmei May 5
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      Also this is a great example of the "idiot-genius roller coaster" of software development that I first heard about from @KentBeck - there's the trough of despair, "why can't I get something simple like this working" and then the crest of VICTORY, "OMG I AM SO AMAAAAAZING"

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    4. Sarah Mei‏Verified account @sarahmei May 5
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      Both are illusions 😅

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    5. Sarah Mei‏Verified account @sarahmei May 5
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      My point here is NOT “Rails is bad” - most frameworks have this upgrade problem. My point is that we put a significant complexity burden onto app developers to understand their OS - which has no redeeming value except making those of us who figure it out feel superior.

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    6. Sarah Mei‏Verified account @sarahmei May 5
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      How might we enable app developers to to focus their attention on the app, rather than the environment?

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      Mislav Marohnić‏ @mislav May 6
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      Replying to @sarahmei

      Thank you for sharing! I have similar problems almost every time I work on a side-project app from years ago. I thought containerization might be a solution, but then I actually went and tried to dockerize a typical Rails app and gave up due to having to learn a whole new stack.

      2:53 AM - 6 May 2019
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        1. Mislav Marohnić‏ @mislav May 6
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          It’s ridiculous that I’ve been using Rails since pre-1.0 and I maintain a Ruby version manager and STILL figuring out my local dev environment and compiling gems with native extensions can be a nightmare

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