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I'm interested in your definition of lucid in the contexts you describe here. I thought lucid meant just being aware that one is actually dreaming. That alone doesn't stop reification. Something else is happening in your "lucid" if reification is dissolving. Are you aware of whathttps://twitter.com/anyane/status/995774013770100737 …

The dreamer, upon becoming aware that one is dreaming, knows both the dream participants and situations aren't real, so it dissolves. The dreamer has no emotional attachment to the dream. I think this is the key difference.

In a way this dissolving of the dream seems like an unintended consequence of partially waking up while in a dream. The dream participant on the other hand is able to keep the dream going knowing it is just a dream. Can you see dream as unreified display and keep it going too?

Thoughts on unreified display in dreams - what is the source of the imagery?

I haven't developed the ability to work with dreams. It's possible the image arises already reified due to the habitual nature of reification. It might be necessary to experience much unreified appearance to trigger an unreified appearance displayed in dream. Perhaps someone has

In my small amount of experience - when the dream appearances are actually recognised, the dream tends towards collapse into lucid dreamless sleep. I don’t know how long a lucid dream can hold itself together. Maybe it requires greater stability to maintain unreified dreams?

By lucid dreamless sleep you mean you are aware that you are sleeping? Is this like a clear display experience or is it a "sleeping only" display experience or anything else you can say about it. This is, as I understand it, a very advanced state of awareness to say the least. :)

By lucid dreamless I mean there is a vivid awareness but no dream ‘display’. The awareness itself isn’t ‘advanced’, its advanced when someone can access that state consistently, understand the significance, and it leads to insight which reduces suffering and improves behaviour.