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Follow-up: My own teacher may very well not be more accomplished than me, but his models of what practices are good for which predicaments, and his ability to see through my BS, are superior to mine Conveyed with some measure of sensitivity, this means I learn better from him.

Would you ever consider seeking out another teacher who you think is more accomplished than you? I've heard teachers talk about this before. Or do you think the level of seniority is less important than a teacher's ability to read you, your situation, and respond accordingly?

Seniority is immensely important. My teacher may not be more accomplished than me *on average* in the domain we're studying, but he both knows more things about other areas and has specific in-domain accomplishments I don't.

I do go other places sometimes for specialized training, and it would probably be an advantage if he just got his head out of his ass and got enlightened already (eh, @iwelsh?), but my bigger point was that the true qualification for teaching is not skill superior to the student.

Instead, teachers who are not shit rely on everything from superior mental models, through experience, through their own failings, to help the student better understand what they're doing. If the student is more talented, the norm is they exceed the master. If not, it depends.

eh, I had a student who exceeded me in a specific domain (energetic states) and I recognized it and sent them to another teacher. One must know ones limitations. And, ultimately, one should want ones students to exceed one.

Probably overstated my case a bit, here. But still, I'd say teaching ability is predicated on other things than one's own ability. Many of the best teachers are not *that* accomplished themselves. I believe you're the most recent person to tell me that, too.

As I stated earlier, you know things that I don't know and you can thus teach me those things - but you also have much more metacognitive context for all the things we both know, which provides its own kind of value.