I think it can be an ongoing effect, which is why a lot of realizers can stick with the cosmic interpretation of their own awareness.
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this is a crucial point. different meditators may experience the same/similar meditation-related mental arising. some will seek to elaborate on their experience, perhaps even reify it. others simply recognize it as mental arising and can thus let it go.
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thus the common instruction to allow mental arising to come and go, without elaborating upon it, making it some "special thing"
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I generally agree, but some people will too readily ignore or negate a serious window of opportunity because they’ve been taught to see all meditative experiences as just more sensory arising. Nuanced approach is optimal; but yours is probably safer on avg.
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Sorry to be so abrupt. I’m trying to make that the old me, but it squeezes back through every now and then.
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No need to say sorry Jody. I respect the position you and Chagmé are coming from; I just think we can be more adult about meditation practice. I’m sympathetic to the ‘so what’ school of thought - and yet taking that as a blanket approach might be a massive flaw in training.
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who mentioned a "so what" approach to phenomenal arising?
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That was an oblique reference on my part. I took a phrase used by Trungpa - illustrative of his general attitude to ‘meditative experiences’ - and used that to demarcate a whole set of attitudes found cross-traditionally, where all experience is just experience, so, ‘so what’.
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Yeah. This made perfect intuitive sense to me, at least.
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