The sudden/gradual, immanence/distinction tensions have gone on for a long long time....explored quite brilliantly by Sam Van Schaik (and others, I'm sure). May be less conflicting if one is able to take the pointers, not as a way to be free 'instantly', but as a way of training
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The inability to recognize the cultural contingents of practice is a problem that repeats over, over and over again. The failure of yoga in the West is a good example. Buddhism, too.
'cultural contingents of practice' - is a great phrase. I may be able to interpret that a certain way according to my own understanding, but I'd be interested to hear you pull that out a bit in the context of the sort of practice/realisation Tilopa is describing.
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Finished up what I had to say in the other thread. :)
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