Dzogchen is taught mainly by the Nyingma, but not exclusively so. The Drukpa branch of the Kagyud School is noted for teaching Dzogchen, for example. So was the Great Fifth Dalai Lama, of the Gelug School, and the current Fourteenth DL has revived that tradition.
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Replying to @Meaningness @Malcolm_Ocean and
Dzogchen is a yana; Nyingma is a sect. Post below explains the difference. The Nyingma lineages teach all the yanas, not just Dzogchen. In fact, Dzogchen was a rare teaching in the Nyingma in pre-modern times.https://vividness.live/2013/11/25/yanas-are-not-buddhist-sects/ …
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Replying to @Meaningness @Malcolm_Ocean and
More accurately I should say that “Nyingma” designates a heterogeneous group of sects. The word just means “old.” The Nyingma sects are all those that trace their lineages back before the advent of the Sarma (“New”) sects around 1050. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nyingma#Second_dissemination_and_New_translations …
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Replying to @Meaningness @Malcolm_Ocean and
Dzogchen was considered the distinctive teaching of the Nyingma largely because the Sarma Schools mainly rejected it. (With exceptions as noted.) They rejected it because it calls the bluff on the contradiction between emptiness and religious norms:https://vividness.live/2015/11/27/emptiness-form-and-dzogchen-ethics/ …
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Replying to @Meaningness @Malcolm_Ocean and
That made it politically explosive, so in practice Dzogchen was taught to a tiny elite only. The Nyingma lineages, like the Sarma, taught conventional morality, and the lower yanas, to nearly everyone. The Dzogchen texts and doctrines were kept mainly secret.
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Replying to @Meaningness @Malcolm_Ocean and
The political suppression of Vajrayana in the West in the 1980s-1990s was initially a suppression of Dzogchen. Tarthang Tulku taught it openly to non-Tibetan lay people, which was sort of like if a new Pope publicly proclaimed that at its core Catholicism was a pedophile sex cult
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Replying to @Meaningness @Malcolm_Ocean and
I know Trungpa was teaching Dzogchen early, late 60s in UK, but not so much openly, and not to groups (AFAIK) Then he moved to USA and took on a more gradual approach, particularly after ‘72ish IIRC. So Tarthang Tulku was teaching openly to groups? Cool
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Replying to @misen__ @Malcolm_Ocean and
I don’t know as much about Tarthang Tulku’s history as I would like (because it has been suppressed, afaict). I gather he was teaching Dzogchen openly in Berkeley in the mid-70s. Then he made it an esoteric-only teaching (early 80s?), and by about 1990 he effectively disappeared.
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Replying to @Meaningness @Malcolm_Ocean and
I would like to know more about Tarthang Tulku also, the books I’ve read of his have some great material, which made me wonder what sort of teaching he did for direct students
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Replying to @misen__ @Malcolm_Ocean and
He worked closely with Injis on synthesizing Dzogchen stuff with Western ideas (notably psychotherapeutic). They considered the _Time, Space, Knowledge_ system their central cocreation. (I’ve never gotten around to reading that.)
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Ah ok, I’ve got one of the TSK books but only recently found out there are a bunch more of them. I’ll make a note to read more of them.
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Replying to @misen__ @Meaningness and
Oh gosh, that is a lot of books! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarthang_Tulku … Speaking of forbidden knowledge, a number of the books are on http://libgen.is
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