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Malcolm cean - check sense of smell — ‏ @Malcolm_Ocean Jan 10

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Yeah, deep similarities. Probably faster reconsolidation is in part because Coherence Therapy folks seem to have much better models & methods for surfacing the actual unconscious "competing commitments" (as Kegan calls them). Here's Kegan's ITC table & some CoTh schemas pic.twitter.com/5atz5smr2a

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getting the wording right is really important in my experience. if you only get the wording half-right in a cognitive sort of way it won't have anywhere near the impact of nailing the wording in "limbic language"

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Yeah, if you try to fill out the table, w/o using limbic language & testing for resonance, 1 of 2 things'll happen: 1. your guess will be inaccurate and you won't really notice 2. your guess will be spot on but it won't actually HIT YOU—so still no agency:https://twitter.com/Malcolm_Ocean/status/1215844953299001344 …

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> "You won’t fully grasp [Coherence Therapy] until you grasp the nimble, active genius of the psyche not only in constructing personal reality, but also in purposefully manifesting any one of its myriad possible states to carry out any of its myriad possible purposes..." pic.twitter.com/xSl9arGimH

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QC‏ @QiaochuYuan Jan 10

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ex: i was working with "i don't have a place i can call home" and that registered moderately but didn't quite hit the spot. i had to clarify exactly what "home" meant in limbic language and got "i don't have a place i get to feel good and warm and safe" and sobbed

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Kaj Sotala‏ @xuenay Jan 11

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This is interesting in that needing to get the wording exactly right in CT is something that doesn't resonate that strongly with me. I do try to hit upon the right wording sometimes, but figuring out the belief in a non-verbal form is much more common for me.

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Mi'sen‏ @misen__ Jan 11

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Yeah I’m finding this utterly fascinating re: ‘limbic language’, and I don’t think I really relate to it....super interesting. Also I didn’t know Kegan had a system like CT.

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Mi'sen‏ @misen__ Jan 11

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So is it sort of like you get the wording just so to the point it resonates and triggers some sort of emotional response?

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Alberto Albero ‏ @celestialboon Jan 11

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Yeah, if you nail it down precisely enough your emotional system goes YEAH and just opens the gates

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Mi'sen‏ @misen__ Jan 12

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Cool, I might play with this - I usually do other stuff if I want to heighten emotions.

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QC‏ @QiaochuYuan Jan 12

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ooh like what?

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Mi'sen‏ @misen__ Jan 12

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Ah well, various things but I don’t want to muddy your discussion of CT with different working assumptions. Happy to discuss some other time though :) I just found it interesting what you said about the specificity of language in how you work in this area.

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