I feel like maybe you don't understand the role labelling is playing for people?
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Replying to @DRMacIver @nosilverv
The 2020 option is what most people who strongly identify with a label were doing before they had that label. It's painful and exhausting unless you can easily pass off what you were going to do anyway as acceptable to the mainstream.
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Replying to @DRMacIver @nosilverv
If you let other people label you then the labels you end up with are rarely nice ones.
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Replying to @nosilverv
People generally don't apply the word "artist" to you until long after you've succeeded, and many artists feel the need to claim the label for themself long before anyone will give it to them.
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Replying to @DRMacIver
right. maybe you can pick the label for defensive legibility reason. i meant to say believing it and acting from it first is misguided
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David R. MacIver Retweeted David R. MacIver
Yeah but https://twitter.com/DRMacIver/status/1213829496127795200 … It's not necessarily that people believe it, it's that the way the social feedback loops work reward you for complying with your label and punish you for deviating from it, but the default label is "normal person" so you're shafted either way.
David R. MacIver added,
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Replying to @DRMacIver @nosilverv
The strength of psycho-social feedback loops is pretty amazing, but you can undermine a significant amount of the conditioned responsiveness to the category mechanism, such that it has much less impact on you. There are risks though, such as careening into perceived social death.
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This is one reason why meditator types who try to go it alone have a much lower survival rate - you need other people who have gone through the process of disentangling from cultural contexts to support you, and make the space between worlds seem safe & sane.
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Replying to @misen__ @DRMacIver
I wonder how much faster I could go with a sangha. It's so not my style that it might be exactly what i need
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I feel like there are workarounds, like a good mentor or that sort of thing. Sangha can have all sorts of messy impact (see @_awbery_’s discussion of preference falsification in dysfunctional community, I can’t remember where that was though
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Charlie Awbery Retweeted Charlie Awbery
Maybe thinking of this transcript from my podcast with
@DeconstructingU . I haven’t written about it yet but it may be worth elaborating into a page at some point. Seems obvious though?https://twitter.com/_awbery_/status/1165270210804363265?s=20 …Charlie Awbery added,
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