For the sake of viewpoint diversity / productively critical clash of ideas:
The #SobSquad movement falls into "most disagree + I don't yet have an argument which stands up to their criticism + maybe they know something important".https://twitter.com/QiaochuYuan/status/1204669821859713024 …
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Malcolm ☣️cean - check sense of smell 👃 — 🌎 🇨🇦 Retweeted QC
Looks like Lulie has already seen this thread but it seems worth linking as it's definitely relevant to this idea-clash. Basically
@QiaochuYuan & I think ~"crying is bad" is actually a keystone meme holding the coercive/static society memeplex in place:https://twitter.com/QiaochuYuan/status/1187240332510908416 …Malcolm ☣️cean - check sense of smell 👃 — 🌎 🇨🇦 added,
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yes. i can't tell you - i mean i literally cannot tell you b/c confidentiality - how many sessions i've facilitated that involved crying from the effects of abuse (including for myself), which in the process allowed people to acknowledge and confront the abuse
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Relaad: my cute but wrong theory is that the surge in reported psych rates meme (ie: I haven’t checked if there actually was an increase) all started from the gay rights movement (maybe earlier) which was a seismic shift towards a culture which allows for openness of expression
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(*related) This is like improving information efficiency in the system, which changes the folk perception of the costs of social norms and so on. I’ve seen a similar thing re: abuse where the sudden pop of the bubble - people expressing hurt openly - shifts the equilibrium.
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Question for cry-guys/bio-emotive practioners: when you’re sat doing your trauma processing stuff and you get to the point where you’re streaming tears or whatever, what’s your next step? Like do you just stay on that texture of feeling, letting it unfold, or what? I’m curious
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if i hit sobbing then often more emotional content comes up and i try naming that stuff, sort of surfing the waves of what's arising, which often leads to more sobbing. sometimes i end up feeling very good and then name the new pleasant content
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Replying to @QiaochuYuan @misen__ and
since you're a meditator i'll name here a key component of the practice that i haven't discussed on twitter yet, which is about allowing the emotional content to arise without sort of believing or reifying it; managing to keep it as object rather than be subject to it
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haven't discussed b/c i have no idea how to teach a person how to do it who doesn't already know how from meditative practice or similar (to the extent that i know how, i learned it from circlers), or even describe it in much detail
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This is a nice juicy practical distinction. Thank you for sharing. I’m leaving the house now but I’ll respond here or DM you later/tomorrow. Maybe we could have a cross-modality chin-wag, which might help with wording what is probably a very intuitive-felt sense thing for you.
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