Mi'sen

Either; Buddhist world, or art or whatever had the biggest impact per unit time of creating fluidity.

Interesting, now you put it like that, I realize that I started making a journey into meta-systematic thinking in different fields around the same time (my late 20s/early 30s). The impetus came professionally when I had to start creating new systems as an nfp fundraiser-founder.

Fluidity appears to be an outcome of repeated creative-destruction of the self. Creating systems. And deconstructing conditioning. Most meditators focus on the latter, while most entrepreneurs only on the former.

This is a great insight. One of the reasons I eventually chose Buddhist Tantra was bc it focuses on construction & creativity - but requires a good experiential understanding of impermanence, unwinding conditioning & emptiness, to do so.

Did you develop that 'experiential understanding' via the Vipassana route? I am very torn between the 2 paths. Renunciation does not appeal; yet finding genuine tantra + where you do not have to create a new identity (become Buddhist, change name etc) just does not appeal to me.

(Four naljors are ngöndro/preliminaries for Dzogchen Semde/mind series).

Can i self-learn Dzogchen or tantra from a book or experimentation, or is there a tradition that does not have requirements of membership where this is taught - sort of like Insight Meditation is?

You can get so far with books and trial and error, but I think a guide works best at the point the practice becomes highly individualized… >