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I like to sit on my arse and relax. Genially mad. Romancing neurotypicals.

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    1. Delysis‏ @delysis 20 Feb 2019
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      Insofar as enlightenment makes people feel less neurotic and more connected to their worlds, 👍. I’ve found heuristic truth in Leary’s take that one has to feel good to do good. But operators tell me heightened states of blissful consciousness are also quite useful for killing.

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    2. Dan listens to the sudden reconfiguration‏ @danlistensto 20 Feb 2019
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      warrior-castes (samurai, kshatriyas, etc.) practicing these forms is the usual example here. improved concentration and equanimity under pressure being the desired performance goal. I wouldn't ever call a killer enlightened. cultivating concentration is not NEARLY enough.

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    3. Dan listens to the sudden reconfiguration‏ @danlistensto 20 Feb 2019
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      dark nights are a developmental stage, not the end state. abuse of power is evidence of the veil of lies and deception (of self and others) that narcissistic egos make to control others. they were never enlightened.

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    4. Delysis‏ @delysis 20 Feb 2019
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      No truly enlightened Scottsman?

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    5. Dan listens to the sudden reconfiguration‏ @danlistensto 20 Feb 2019
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      I insist on a definition that excludes explicit, intentional, knowing harm to self and others. Is that unreasonable?

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    6. Vinay Gupta‏ @leashless 20 Feb 2019
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      Hey how's it going, worms?

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    7. Mi'sen‏ @misen__ 20 Feb 2019
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      Hey Vinay. Apparently I wasn’t supposed to tag you in on this. Seeming as you’re here now — sorry you lot — I wonder if you care to elaborate on what the nath tradition consider to count as enlightenment? Relationship between enlightenment and behaviour/personality?

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    8. Vinay Gupta‏ @leashless 20 Feb 2019
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      It's a mahasiddha tradition. As with Vajrayana, the closest Buddhist tradition in both geography and style, enlightened beings manifest in a huge range of personalities. Sharp contrast with, say, Zen where they seem to converge as they get closer to enlightenment. No idea why.

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      Mi'sen‏ @misen__ 20 Feb 2019
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      Ah, we have shared lineage ancestors via the mahasiddhas, so to speak. Given the variety of personal manifestations, have you found that people get confused that you’re supposed to be ‘enlightened’ but don’t adhere to their image of what a so-called enlightened person is like?

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        2. Vinay Gupta‏ @leashless 20 Feb 2019
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          No, they aren't confused, they're racist cunts. Who gave a bunch of random white people the right to try to judge the spiritual evolution of an ethnic Hindu spiritual practitoner? White privilege, that's who. I'm a private citizen working mainly on FOSS tech for humanitarians.

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        3. Vinay Gupta‏ @leashless 20 Feb 2019
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          We Hindus are not in the same situation. In the Nath group, consider https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yogi_Adityanath … who is the elected chief minister of a 260m person political region as was his predecessor at the Gorakhnath Math. From a foundation like that, we don't need to flatter people so much.

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        1. Vinay Gupta‏ @leashless 20 Feb 2019
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          The Tibetans, who were penniless politics refugees, were almost completely dependent on the support of rich, privileged Americans for their survival. Somebody paid for Naropa, and all the rest. This power relationship distorted the teachings: they met expectations. This is bad.

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