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I like to sit on my arse and relax. Genially mad. Romancing neurotypicals.

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    1. Mi'sen‏ @misen__ 5 Feb 2019
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      Does believing in sovereignty require a belief in free-will?

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    2. Jason Snyder‏ @cognazor 5 Feb 2019
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      I don't think so. Even if there is no libertarian free will, there are many layers of perceived agency that can be useful, and evolved to be so

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    3. Mi'sen‏ @misen__ 5 Feb 2019
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      Yeah, I suppose I’m less interested in the ontic/metaphysic understanding of free-will, than I am in what happens when people take those positions as functional pivots in their world-image. It’s amazing how sticky some ideas are, @chagmed can tell you all about that though.pic.twitter.com/ooCYbw3xdO

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    4. Mi'sen‏ @misen__ 5 Feb 2019
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      I’m not sure what sovereignty without belief in free will would look like....but I’m open to that possibility. Perhaps sovereignty just isn’t a story I’m that sold on; but I can see why people would like it or find it useful.

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    5. Euvie Ivanova‏ @euvieivanova 5 Feb 2019
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      Are you familiar with sovereignty as @jgreenhall describes it? It's quite different from the libertarian notion of free will. https://medium.com/deep-code/on-jordan-peterson-and-the-future-51402a370d79 …

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    6. Mi'sen‏ @misen__ 5 Feb 2019
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      Replying to @euvieivanova @cognazor and

      Thanks for the link.

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    7. Euvie Ivanova‏ @euvieivanova 6 Feb 2019
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      As far as my current view, I actually see most things that people consider to be "free will" as genetically programmed or conditioned responses (striving for success, mate selection, etc). I'm more interested in emergence.

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    8. Euvie Ivanova‏ @euvieivanova 6 Feb 2019
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      Replying to @euvieivanova @misen__ and

      In your experience, what happens when people take the notion of free will as pivotal in their world view?

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    9. Mi'sen‏ @misen__ 6 Feb 2019
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      Replying to @euvieivanova @cognazor and

      A simple summary (b/c time): - praise: they attribute their successes to their own efforts, and undervalue context dependant variables. - blame: they attribute others' failures to their lack of effort, motivation, etc; and undervalue why those failures occurred in context.

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    10. Euvie Ivanova‏ @euvieivanova 6 Feb 2019
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      Right, I see that a lot in entrepreneurial circles. Lots of survivor bias. Those that make it attribute it to their effort. Those that don't make it are seen as not hustling hard enough by those that make it, and rarely get to tell their own story.

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      Mi'sen‏ @misen__ 6 Feb 2019
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      Replying to @euvieivanova @cognazor and

      Yes that has been my experience also, pretty common in entrepreneurs and people who gained socio-economic status 'against the odds'.

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