Sovereignty is the capacity to take responsibility, to respond to the world rather than be overwhelmed by it.
Sovereignty is to be a conscious agent.
This is not something that you can be taught.
You can be invited to the work, but you must undertake it yourself.
@jgreenhall
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Replying to @euvieivanova @jgreenhall
Does believing in sovereignty require a belief in free-will?
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I don't think so. Even if there is no libertarian free will, there are many layers of perceived agency that can be useful, and evolved to be so
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Yeah, I suppose I’m less interested in the ontic/metaphysic understanding of free-will, than I am in what happens when people take those positions as functional pivots in their world-image. It’s amazing how sticky some ideas are,
@chagmed can tell you all about that though.pic.twitter.com/ooCYbw3xdO2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes -
I’m not sure what sovereignty without belief in free will would look like....but I’m open to that possibility. Perhaps sovereignty just isn’t a story I’m that sold on; but I can see why people would like it or find it useful.
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Are you familiar with sovereignty as
@jgreenhall describes it? It's quite different from the libertarian notion of free will. https://medium.com/deep-code/on-jordan-peterson-and-the-future-51402a370d79 …1 reply 1 retweet 1 like -
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As far as my current view, I actually see most things that people consider to be "free will" as genetically programmed or conditioned responses (striving for success, mate selection, etc). I'm more interested in emergence.
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In your experience, what happens when people take the notion of free will as pivotal in their world view?
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Replying to @euvieivanova @cognazor and
A simple summary (b/c time): - praise: they attribute their successes to their own efforts, and undervalue context dependant variables. - blame: they attribute others' failures to their lack of effort, motivation, etc; and undervalue why those failures occurred in context.
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what this looks like in practice is that the causes & conditions which shape the 'emergent' outcome of any set of responses become hidden; because of fake attribution. IME, people who take free-will as a key belief cease to look for leverage points where they can optimise.
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Can you elaborate on the last statement?
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Eg: I know a CEO of a recruitment firm. He was very good at what he used to do, but now he’s at the top he complains about his young employees not taking initiative; instead of looking for things he can change, he complains about them not trying hard enough.
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