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I like to sit on my arse and relax. Genially mad. Romancing neurotypicals.

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    1. Euvie Ivanova‏ @euvieivanova 4 Feb 2019
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      Sovereignty is the capacity to take responsibility, to respond to the world rather than be overwhelmed by it. Sovereignty is to be a conscious agent. This is not something that you can be taught. You can be invited to the work, but you must undertake it yourself. @jgreenhall

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    2. Mi'sen‏ @misen__ 5 Feb 2019
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      Replying to @euvieivanova @jgreenhall

      Does believing in sovereignty require a belief in free-will?

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    3. Jason Snyder‏ @cognazor 5 Feb 2019
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      I don't think so. Even if there is no libertarian free will, there are many layers of perceived agency that can be useful, and evolved to be so

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    4. Mi'sen‏ @misen__ 5 Feb 2019
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      Replying to @cognazor @euvieivanova @jgreenhall

      Yeah, I suppose I’m less interested in the ontic/metaphysic understanding of free-will, than I am in what happens when people take those positions as functional pivots in their world-image. It’s amazing how sticky some ideas are, @chagmed can tell you all about that though.pic.twitter.com/ooCYbw3xdO

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    5. Mi'sen‏ @misen__ 5 Feb 2019
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      I’m not sure what sovereignty without belief in free will would look like....but I’m open to that possibility. Perhaps sovereignty just isn’t a story I’m that sold on; but I can see why people would like it or find it useful.

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    6. Euvie Ivanova‏ @euvieivanova 5 Feb 2019
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      Are you familiar with sovereignty as @jgreenhall describes it? It's quite different from the libertarian notion of free will. https://medium.com/deep-code/on-jordan-peterson-and-the-future-51402a370d79 …

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      Mi'sen‏ @misen__ 5 Feb 2019
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      Replying to @euvieivanova @cognazor and

      Thanks for the link.

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        1. Euvie Ivanova‏ @euvieivanova 6 Feb 2019
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          Replying to @misen__ @cognazor and

          As far as my current view, I actually see most things that people consider to be "free will" as genetically programmed or conditioned responses (striving for success, mate selection, etc). I'm more interested in emergence.

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        2. Euvie Ivanova‏ @euvieivanova 6 Feb 2019
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          Replying to @euvieivanova @misen__ and

          In your experience, what happens when people take the notion of free will as pivotal in their world view?

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