Maybe it's that beauty shines through between the lines, and if you make beauty the line, you miss it.
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Replying to @misen__
But enlightened people don't act like assholes. :)
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Replying to @Triquetrea
What tradition do you reckon is most sold on the 'enlightened people don't act like assholes' story? For better or for worse, kagyu/nyingma folk seem pretty happy to allow for enlightened assholes (eg: mahasiddhas, wrathful activity, etc). My guess would be a therevada tradition
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Replying to @misen__
All the subcategories of Mahayana give me this vibe, TBH, and some Theravada. Stoicism, to an extent - but it's more of a guideline w/the understanding being that people are sort of trash as often as not, no matter their accomplishment.
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Replying to @Triquetrea @misen__
Personally, and I guess this says more about me than about the traditions, I lean towards some version of the Stoic interpretation. Life is harsh. People are harsh. It's good to act with kindness, wisdom and equanimity. All the same, see the first 2 steps. You are no different.
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Replying to @Triquetrea @misen__
The key reason the Stoics keep giving for why you should treat others well, is that they are just as divine as you, and you just as base as them. To me, that lack of pretentiousness about "enlightenment" is more of a key value than compassion. Reflects a lack of distortions.
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Replying to @Triquetrea @misen__
Sure, it might generally make sense to treat people kindly and compassionately, and to act with equanimity and good intent and so on... But what if it doesn't, right now? What do you do then? Nothing is true (except this, and also that), everything is permitted (but not that).
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Yes, I'd generally favour this sort of interpretation, partly because of the way I've been taught. One of my teachers is generally very warm, kind, loving.....the other can be pretty grouchy, and gets emphatic when people mistake warm fuzzies and gentleness as the point.
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I mean, a big part of how I got into meditation was basically having my face shoved into to the all-encompassing chaos of my experience. Wouldn't work for everyone, but at that time, being shown that my darkest emotion is just as open and empty as the happiest fuzzies, was good.
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