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    1. Chagmé‏ @chagmed 7 Oct 2018
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      @Failed_Buddhist assume subject X, which is complicated, has traditionally been taught using a particular pedagogy. those who teach it decide to utilize a non-traditional pedagogy. how should they evaluate the efficacy of the new methods?

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      Oh, see, that's what I like - an excellent question. I now actually have to pause and ponder that.

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    5. Mi'sen‏ @misen__ 8 Oct 2018
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      I think this raises an interesting point. Going back to Chāgmé's opening question - I wonder whether you have a specific example in mind, re: Subject X (which sounds like a secret CIA mind-control project).

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    6. Chagmé‏ @chagmed 8 Oct 2018
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      in days past, students were tutored. this is an expensive proposition at scale, so a teacher was assigned multiple students. now, a professor can teach thousands of students in an online university.

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      in each transition: 1:1 tutoring -> 1:X -> 1:[infinite] it is possible to ascertain whether students are absorbing the material. there also exist mechanisms via which student may ask questions. the instructor is able to assert that the student has learned.

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    8. Chagmé‏ @chagmed 8 Oct 2018
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      imagine now a very complex subject area requiring many years' study and practice. consider that in the past it was taught by a single master to one (or at most a few) selected disciples.

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      further, evaluation of a student's progress requires familiarity with the student's patterns, forms of expression, etc. clearly, unlike teaching calculus, teaching subjects of this kind does not scale.

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      I wonder if it is a case of moral hazzard? Putting aside the technical problem of teaching a complex subject; if there exist systemic factors which would justify a particular behaviour - eg: maximising students - then it should be no surprise that the behaviour will proliferate.

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        2. Chagmé‏ @chagmed 8 Oct 2018
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          moral hazard is certainly in play. if you haven't vetted your altered pedagogy, you should not inform new students that you can teach them a subject. and yet, lamas do this all of the time. this is immoral, even abusive.

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          promising students that you can (and will!) teach them Dzogchen or Mahamudra in the course of a weekend, when those students are unfamiliar to the lama, and with whom he not follow up, is disgusting

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