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    1. Skepticxt_UK‏ @Skepticat_UK Oct 21

      Skepticxt_UK Retweeted Deceptive appearance at birth

      Or it could be that 'gender id' is a load of bs. We are the sex that we are but there is more than one way to be a man or a woman and we should be fighting for a society that accepts 'feminine' men & 'masculine' women instead of resorting to risky clinical intervention #Butterflyhttps://twitter.com/Natal_Lies/status/1054119306726948865 …

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      Deceptive appearance at birth @Natal_Lies
      #butterfly Gender identity is non negotiable, we are who we are and we feel what we feel. Anyone who doubts that should read the true life story of David Reimer. Its very sad and demonstrates that gender identity can't be changed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Reimer …
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      TarMiriel‏ @miriel_tar Oct 21
      Replying to @Skepticat_UK

      Erm doesn't the tragic David Reimer story suggest the opposite? He was bio male raised female after a horrible circumcision accident. But he rejected the 'gender identity' imposed by parents/society. It was trumped by his biology: he was the sex he was, penis or no penis.

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        2. Skepticxt_UK‏ @Skepticat_UK Oct 21
          Replying to @miriel_tar

          How does it suggest the opposite? His supposedly 'female' upbringing in an era of rigid gender stereotypes was trumped by his traditionally 'male' personality, which is hardly surprising given that he was raised with a twin brother by parents who KNEW he was a boy.

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        3. TarMiriel‏ @miriel_tar Oct 21
          Replying to @Skepticat_UK

          I was responding to the tweet you linked to, not your good self. They were claiming it was his 'gender identity' that made him a boy despite his upbringing.

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        4. Skepticxt_UK‏ @Skepticat_UK Oct 21
          Replying to @miriel_tar

          Ah, gotcha!

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        2. David Thomas‏ @nevereverDave Oct 21
          Replying to @miriel_tar @Skepticat_UK

          The case is notorious and started with a physician deciding 'they' could get away with converting a true male child into a female. The parents were dragged into this deceit as being the best for him in the circumstances. It's a cruel deceit & physician I think was disbarred.

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        3. Skepticxt_UK‏ @Skepticat_UK Oct 21
          Replying to @nevereverDave @miriel_tar

          Correct. What's your point?

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        2. Val Dobson‏ @ValDobson Oct 21
          Replying to @miriel_tar @Skepticat_UK

          Quite. He never adjusted to being a girl. And even though he'd been raised without testes, at puberty his body still managed to produce enough testosterone to give him some male characteristics. He *felt* like a boy and outright refused to be a girl any more.

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        3. David Thomas‏ @nevereverDave Oct 21
          Replying to @ValDobson @miriel_tar @Skepticat_UK

          He wasn't ever a girl. The physician believed in nurture overruled nature & dragged desperate parents into a vicious lie. Lad was left unable to reconcile everything including trusting parents. Incomparable in any way with experience of a trans person self realising true self.

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        4. Skepticxt_UK‏ @Skepticat_UK Oct 21
          Replying to @nevereverDave @ValDobson @miriel_tar

          'True self' being their personality not their biological sex, of course.

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        1. Furious Female #FBGC‏ @FemaleFurious Oct 21
          Replying to @miriel_tar @Skepticat_UK

          You're way more succinct than me!

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