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Looking for the intersection of machine learning, neuroscience, tennis, and learning French. Currently lost in a RandomForest.

Wellington, New Zealand
Joined February 2009

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    1. Tony Cunningham‏ @Sleep_Strong Nov 18
      Replying to @Sleep_Strong @sleepscientist

      provide all sides of the argument (reviewers are partly to blame for not calling him on that). But his efforts to translate a complicated topic for a lay audience is commendable with a basic message of "Sleep is Good", (I don't buy the harm done by the book argument at all) 3/

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    2. Tony Cunningham‏ @Sleep_Strong Nov 18
      Replying to @Sleep_Strong @sleepscientist

      I won't argue he oversimplified, but I agree with the morale of the story. My bigger issue is the tone of the blog. This is clearly not written to engage in a scientific discussion of debatable points (which is what they are). It's interesting he uses the term "scaremongering" 4/

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    3. Alexey Guzey‏ @alexeyguzey Nov 19
      Replying to @Sleep_Strong @sleepscientist

      hi! I'm the author of that essay. I'm down to engage in a scientific discussion of debatable points. Let me know if I got anything wrong in my essay, I will correct it.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    4. Tony Cunningham‏ @Sleep_Strong Nov 19
      Replying to @alexeyguzey @sleepscientist

      I'll start with sleep deprivation does cause death as made evident by animal models (obviously can't test this experimentally in humans) Everson, C. A., Bergmann, B. M., & Rechtschaffen, A. (1989). Sleep deprivation in the rat: III. Total sleep deprivation. Sleep, 12(1), 13-21.

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    5. Tony Cunningham‏ @Sleep_Strong Nov 19
      Replying to @Sleep_Strong @alexeyguzey @sleepscientist

      If I get a chance I'll try to take a look back through and highlight other things, but as a sleep researcher and clinical psychologist, I would say TSD is last resort, not a first line treatment. We don't know how it works, so we don't know what it does long term. Obviously, some

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    6. Tony Cunningham‏ @Sleep_Strong Nov 19
      Replying to @Sleep_Strong @alexeyguzey @sleepscientist

      sleep researchers and clinicians might disagree with me on that one, hence the debate.

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    7. Alexey Guzey‏ @alexeyguzey Nov 19
      Replying to @Sleep_Strong @sleepscientist

      genuinely curious if you have you ever prescribed sleep deprivation and whether it worked / what were the side effects

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    8. Tony Cunningham‏ @Sleep_Strong Nov 19
      Replying to @alexeyguzey @sleepscientist

      Nope, the only instance in which I'd potentially consider it is with someone acutely suicidal, but suicidality is actually a pretty acute state and I'd suggest a night of sleep first. I do think it's a great area for further exploration (read an article where TSD + light therapy

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    9. Alexey Guzey‏ @alexeyguzey Nov 19
      Replying to @Sleep_Strong @sleepscientist

      hmmm, why if the negative side effects are mostly minor and rare?

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    10. Alexey Guzey‏ @alexeyguzey Nov 19
      Replying to @alexeyguzey @Sleep_Strong @sleepscientist

      i feel like i gotta be missing something that specialists do know and i don't

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      Richard Hall‏ @minimumnz Nov 19
      Replying to @alexeyguzey @Sleep_Strong @sleepscientist

      It's the quality of evidence. See Cochrane's mention sleep deprivation when discussing light therapy.https://www.cochrane.org/CD004050/DEPRESSN_light-treatment-for-non-seasonal-depression …

      9:44 PM - 19 Nov 2019
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        2. Richard Hall‏ @minimumnz Nov 19
          Replying to @minimumnz @alexeyguzey and

          Clinicians are very conservative when it comes to treatment plans they have a duty of care. When assessing evidence there's a hierarchy to quality, and the evidence for sleep deprivation is very weak when compared to current best practices, need a RCT at the very least.pic.twitter.com/lW8DTfuxpH

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