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technology, liberty, teenagers with superpowers. vp @foundersfund. creator + producer #anatomyofnext, #problematic. ringleader @hereticon.

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    Mike Solana‏ @micsolana Jan 17
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    Mike Solana Retweeted Ian Miles Cheong

    if we could really automate to this degree, we could automate ALL repetitive tasks, decimate the cost of living, and create millions of new jobs. of course the truth is much scarier: there's not much evidence this kind of shift is actually happening.https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1217853921399431168 …

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    Ian Miles CheongVerified account @stillgray
    Yeah! Fuck jobs! Watch as two engineers put hundreds of thousands of people out of work worldwide! pic.twitter.com/xtoT7XKLmD
    1:52 PM - 17 Jan 2020
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      2. Mike Solana‏ @micsolana Jan 17
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        yes, this robot can make a pizza. but is a robot at this level really less expensive? do ppl really want to bother with technicians and maintenance at a pizza parlor? do ppl really want robot pizza? how many? adoption is more complicated than "technology exists."

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      3. Mike Solana‏ @micsolana Jan 17
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        show me a self-replicating, self-maintaining fleet of semi-autonomous pizza robots that operate for *less* than minimum wage and i'll agree we're probably looking at a real labor shift... in the utopian world we are necessarily now living in.

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      2. Grant Gould‏ @nonnihil Jan 17
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        Replying to @micsolana @kmele

        It's a pair of stock UR10s with the stock fingers, open-looping its trajectories unless there's a $10ks of mocap gear just out of frame. Designs like that take lots of human supervision and break down regularly. If that sort of approach worked we'd be up to ears in them already.

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      3. Grant Gould‏ @nonnihil Jan 17
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        In general with robot demo videos like this: * Sensors are much harder & less sexy than actuators. If the video is all "movers" and no "lookers" it's nonsense. * Look for cuts. Unless you see a full activity cycle, every camera cut is a place human intervention was needed.

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      1. David Doswell‏ @david_doswell Jan 17
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        I’m waiting for the day when we are not hoping tech creates new jobs but eliminates them entirely, and people evolve out of finding meaning in doing something they wouldn’t do for free.

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      1. Gabriel‏ @gbrl_dick Jan 17
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        jeeeesus cannot believe the conversation is still at this level — literally no amount of preceding evidence is enough to make these people suspect that maybe replacing the shoe-shine boys is a *good* thing. And this pizza looks TERRIBLE, of course it’s the French

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      2. Alder‏ @alder_riley Jan 17
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        There’s always an undertone to this hand-wringing of “how will those freed of physical labor free their time?” as if the thin line between order and chaos is made of minimum wage, physically exhausting jobs. The number of manual laborers we help with low cost 3D work...

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      3. Alder‏ @alder_riley Jan 17
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        to assist their patent/invention process makes me optimistic that with automation will come a snowball effect of those innovations to our physical surroundings that we so desperately aspire to.

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      2. Audrey‏ @auderdy Jan 17
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        Audrey Retweeted Audrey

        Seems like a good thing to have AI increased ability to automate/remove jobs that atrophy the mind (if we can program a robot to perform a task, we shouldnt be making a human mind repetitively do it). Makes way for jobs that utilize ppls unique abilities https://twitter.com/auderdy/status/1199627997629698051?s=20 …https://twitter.com/auderdy/status/1199627997629698051 …

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        Audrey @auderdy
        Long term exposure to low job complexity has detrimental effects on cognitive function & gray matter. OSHA regulation for ensuring health at work not just for physical safety but also to protect against brain atrophy seems like a good thing to create. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5292433/ …
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      3. Andrew "Socially Distant" Glidden‏ @asglidden Jan 17
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        One of my more horrifying and misanthropic thoughts is that there is some number of people with no inclination or ability for creative work. What do they do in a knowledge economy?

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