Mike Solana

Honestly I am absolutely terrified of people who don’t believe in market economies because those are the people who turned my grandparents into refugees from China, and my mom’s family into refugees from Myanmar 20th century was not kind to my ancestors, and history repeats

It depends on the efficiency of the market economy - when it’s captured by a few at the top , then it’s a market in theory and it’s more dangerous than the alternative.

which market economy with an income equality issue is worse than mao’s china

Antebellum south. Not hard.

yeah it doesn’t really count as a free market when people are literally enslaved

Y'all say shit like this but then I get mad (I think rightly) when people say China and Russia "weren't 'true' socialism"

my point is the south wasn’t free. are you disagreeing with that or... ?

And socialists would say that in those countries the means of production were truly in the hands of the workers because they weren't sufficiently democratic. I think both arguments are unsubstantive deflections aiming to obscure the larger point critics are making.