Roseanne's great reboot and the grumbling from some rightwing circles reaffirms my premise that conservatives don't create culture. She (and her character) have never been conservatives, and I don't think a conservative "Roseanne" would be possible.
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Replying to @michaelmalice
Think you're taking this insight about culture from Thaddeus Russell too far unless you are referring specifically to American conservatives or to pop culture when you're talking about culture here.
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Replying to @michaelmalice
Ok agreed. To be fair to the conservative movement had negligent power & funding until 70's. Granted they always wasted that money on policy papers.
@DavidSteinRPA also noted in his book that when Hollywood conservatives actually tried to create culture they failed. Too overt.1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @Neomenckenite @DavidSteinRPA
negligent power is how american pop culture is originated, though, from comic books to virtually every music genre to vaudeville which became hollywood. they dont have the mindset or perspective is my theory also, when has overtness stopped leftist culture?
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Replying to @michaelmalice @DavidSteinRPA
Agree that they lack the mindset but not sure they are directly at fault. Artists have to draw on something deep. I suspect it is American conservatism as a worldview itself that doesn't inspire much creativity in artists.
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Replying to @Neomenckenite @DavidSteinRPA
i would more specifically say that the mindset that leads on to conservatism is one that is not creatively inspired (this is not necessarily a criticism) same as the idea that homophobes become religious as opposed to religion causing homophobia.
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Replying to @michaelmalice @DavidSteinRPA
That is certainly the case in the present era. But the premise doesn't hold over time. Traditionally artists served the established conservative order to a considerable degree. My theory is that conservatism has lost the moral high ground to egalitarianism since 1945.
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Replying to @Neomenckenite @DavidSteinRPA
i dont think pop culture was really a thing before modernism
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Replying to @michaelmalice @DavidSteinRPA
Sorry I keep thinking of culture in the general sense. But you're right that it came later. I suppose a case can still be made: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture_industry … But I take your point.
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obviously we are in complete agreement that 20th century american conservatism and european conservatism are extremely dissimilar in every way
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