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    michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen 16 May 2018
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    I'm quite sympathetic to Judea Pearl's point of view that AI needs some notion of causality built in at the roots: https://www.quantamagazine.org/to-build-truly-intelligent-machines-teach-them-cause-and-effect-20180515/ …pic.twitter.com/ttiMJgkFP2

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      2. Diego Mesa‏ @diego898 16 May 2018
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        One of my favorite related pieces on the subject: http://www.michaelnielsen.org/ddi/if-correlation-doesnt-imply-causation-then-what-does/ …

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      3. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen 16 May 2018
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        Did you realize I wrote it?

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      2. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen 16 May 2018
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        I haven't read the whole thing, but I've read a fair chunk, much of it very closely. My post http://www.michaelnielsen.org/ddi/if-correlation-doesnt-imply-causation-then-what-does/ … is based on it.

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      1. Henri Palacci‏ @henripal 16 May 2018
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        This Leon Bottou talk outlines his research on finding causality in data with modern ML techniques. Very interesting early results!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfJeaa--xO0 …

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      2. Csaba Szepesvari‏ @CsabaSzepesvari 21 May 2018
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        The agent-viewpoint (agent, actively controlling its environment to achieve some goals, see Russel-Norvig book, all work on RL/MDPs) is inherently causal. So we can refine the way we do things, but this would not be a fundamental change.

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      1. Manjari Narayan‏ @NeuroStats 17 May 2018
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        Agreed. It is still remarkable to me that people don't accept probability alone is not enough for causal reasoning. That said I don't think it is as easy as he makes like. All the hard work isn't over, especially in the context of massively complex causal systems.

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      1. Terrance Jackson‏ @NuPlaya 21 May 2018
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        Deep learning is just curve fitting. https://wp.me/p47Kt7-1uU  To build truly intelligent machines, teach them cause and effect.pic.twitter.com/JO9Qjzq5Js

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      1. Mirela Causevic‏ @Mire1a 16 May 2018
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        This is so fascinating. Still attempting at his 'Causality' (second edition). Quite worth the effort.pic.twitter.com/4trd7wsTwi

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