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    1. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen 6 May 2018
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      I asked him what he thought was wrong. "I don't know. I think it might be a problem with the power supply." He described all the (many, many!) things he was doing to get cleaner current, as well as half a dozen other issues it might be.

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    2. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen 6 May 2018
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      Two years later I saw him again, a few months after he'd achieved BEC. I asked what had been the problem. "Turns out it was the power supply!" he said. Not quite beaming -- he's not a beamer -- but as close as he got.

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    3. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen 6 May 2018
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      Actually, when I dug down into details, he'd changed or fixed a _lot_ of things in the intervening two years. And it's hard to be sure. Maybe some of those other things were essential, too. Hard to test the counterfactual.

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    4. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen 6 May 2018
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      This type of story is very common. Often, failure to replicate means the experimentalist needs to do more work. The source of the trouble is often tacit knowledge or uncontrolled elements in the original paper.

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    5. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen 6 May 2018
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      This most emphatically doesn't mean the original paper is bad. Indeed, as with BEC, the original paper may be extremely good. Instead, it may mean more work is needed to understand exactly what's required to see the effect. The original paper is merely an important first step.

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    6. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen 6 May 2018
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      Another good example: measurements of the quality factor of sapphire (basically, how good a lasing substance is it) differed by _orders of magnitude(!)_ between Russia and the West during the cold war.

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    7. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen 6 May 2018
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      It took more than 20 years to sort this out! Turns out it was due to tacit knowledge available in the Russian lab that wasn't known in the West. Story is told here: https://orca.cf.ac.uk/71069/1/wrkgpaper1.pdf …pic.twitter.com/qFJFRRG6er

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    8. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen 6 May 2018
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      It's worth noting: some Western scientists thought this meant the Russian results were wrong. Turns out it was the Westerners who were wrong. (The Q of sapphire was a hot topic, as it was thought to be relevant for the detection of gravitational waves. So, not small stakes.)pic.twitter.com/UVP36d9eVw

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    9. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen 6 May 2018
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      A tempting response is to say "Oh, the paper should have included more detail." But first-rate experiments often include a mindboggling number of details that have to be gotten right. Figuring those out is (rightly) the decades-long task of an entire community doing followup work

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    10. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen 6 May 2018
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      If you don't believe this, look at the miniscule details Collins paper on the Q of sapphire. Or write out a list of all the possible noise sources in your power supply that might muck up an experiment. (I'll be waiting when your list passes 100 items.)

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      michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen 6 May 2018
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      The "failure to replicate = bad" narrative is tempting. But it's a dramatic misunderstanding & oversimplification of how science works. I wish people had better mental models, to understand that failure to replicate is often instead merely a step along the way to understanding.

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        1. Within Without‏ @stemcellpartner 6 May 2018
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          Failure to replicate is valuable because it teaches that there is an uncontrolled variable that is affecting the outcome. Identification of this uncontrolled variable using the scientific method is how knowledge and understanding is advanced.

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        1. Jacob D Biamonte‏ @JacobBiamonte 6 May 2018
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          I’m biological sciences “failure to replicate” to me (an outsider) seems a clear argument against the experiment. In physics the most I’ve seen is “we didn’t observe this effect”.

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        1. M Stone‏ @M_Stone969 6 May 2018
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          True, but in too many instances flawed experimental design & analysis, confirmation bias, pressure to publish (esp. ‘novel’ results), please peers (especially powerful senior ones), and requirements for professional advancement are major contributors to lack of replicability.

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        1. Ben Reinhardt‏ @Ben_Reinhardt 6 May 2018
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          What's the difference between the BEC and the unreplicable priming studies where the original author said effectively "you didn't do it right"? In the former it feels right to put burden of proof on the replicator, the former it feels right to put it on the OA.

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        1. surrogate activities‏ @mitsein 6 May 2018
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          Thank you. Balls thread.

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        1. David W. Locke‏ @DavidWLocke 6 May 2018
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          In a factor analysis, the first three factors are quick and cheap. The 200th factor is expensive and minute in the quantity of variation for which it accounts. That factor is a long way down the tail. Do we communicate the whole tail?

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        1. Hazem A. M. Awad,PhD‏ @hazem_awad 7 May 2018
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          True but if multiple teams fail to replicate or, worse, if the original paper authors fail to properly replicate then we have real issues with the original result. This is far more acute a problem in the non hard sciences, e.g. humanities hence current replication crisis

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        1. codeology‏ @coder451 Jul 17
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          is that because there were over actually 1000 steps to replicate but because they are bundle into macro steps eg: power supply = 1 step ( but really its 100 ) but its written as 1 because most of the time power supplies work as they should

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