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    1. Julia Galef‏Verified account @juliagalef 6 Apr 2018
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      Most of you think humblebragging's worse than bragging. Let me make a case for the reverse. If someone openly brags, you're forced to congratulate him. But if he humblebrags, you can pretend not to notice, eg: "My beach house is sooo ramshackle" "That's ok, as long as it's comfy"

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    2. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen 6 Apr 2018
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      Having my friends brag to me - i.e., share their successes - is really wonderful. It can be done obnoxiously, but many do it beautifully. I wish many would do it more. But maybe by "bragging" you mean "obnoxious sharing of success", by definition?

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    3. Julia Galef‏Verified account @juliagalef 7 Apr 2018
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      It's tricky to define bragging. Certainly "I got the job I was hoping for!" doesn't feel much like a brag. OTOH, I just saw someone on facebook talk about how "No one can believe I'm in my 30s, everybody thinks I look ten years younger"

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    4. Julia Galef‏Verified account @juliagalef 7 Apr 2018
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      ... Or to give another example, I saw someone else on facebook talk about how amazing he is at his job. Maybe there's a difference in affect between these and the "Yay, I got the job" example? These feel more smug, the job one feels more happy?

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    5. Julia Galef‏Verified account @juliagalef 7 Apr 2018
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      Or maybe the implied request is different: "Admire me" versus "Be happy for me" ?

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    6. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen 7 Apr 2018
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      That seems like a very useful model to clarify thought! Interesting to think about in a blended mode, too (sometimes people want both, in varying degrees). Overall, I'd like my friends to be more forthcoming about their successes. I think it'd make the world a happier place.

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      michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen 7 Apr 2018
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      I wonder a bit about gender stereotypes. My sense is that there is a (weak) societal stereotype in favour of admiring men, and being happy for women. I wonder if that effects the type of thing people try to solicit?

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        2. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen 7 Apr 2018
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          I.e., men might be more likely to try to solicit admiration, simply because in their model that's more likely to be forthcoming; they perhaps think less about the possibility of other people being happy for them? (Very unsure of all this.)

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        3. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen 7 Apr 2018
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          Incidentally, this is one reason I was happy moving to the US. Australian culture is not good at celebrating people's successes in a healthy way. There's even a common term for this phenomenon: "tall poppy syndrome". The US is much better about this, IMO.

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