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    1. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen 15 Feb 2018
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      What do our (supposed) intellectual elite know about human progress? Repost: https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=165938533888688&id=100014176268390 … Intro excerpted belowpic.twitter.com/DRaMaYqnNy

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    2. Patrick N‏ @patrick_exo 16 Feb 2018
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      The charts aren't created or used like that, though. They aggregate giant winners with modest losers, and carefully pick timeframes to emphasize growth. They ignore decadal and large subgroup reversals. They shout down dissent, and say that we have no problems/everything is fine.

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    3. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen 16 Feb 2018
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      Only a fool would use these kinds of statistics to argue that everything is fine and we have no problems. But it would also be foolish to ignore these statistics, and not to try to understand what's going on.

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    4. Patrick N‏ @patrick_exo 16 Feb 2018
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      This suggests that I have either run into loud fools in the past, or that eg: twitter length limits are making people appear foolish. But I do see those sorts of charts used more for a "we have no problems" narrative than a "we have better problems" narrative.

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    5. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen 16 Feb 2018
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      Replying to @patrick_exo @mhoye

      Can you point to a specific example? I'd be curious to see it (though definitely wouldn't wade in). I think understanding broad positive changes is very important, since it gives us strong hints about what works.

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      michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen 16 Feb 2018
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      For instance, in talking to people about the drop in infant mortality, people make many different hypotheses (better hygiene; urbanization; more doctors; etc). Understanding which have contributed most versus which have contributed little seems worth doing.

      8:57 AM - 16 Feb 2018
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        1. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen 16 Feb 2018
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          (This specific example is of interest to me: I don't understand this well, and would like to understand better.)

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