Animal vs. Human version of trolly problem. Train is headed down track A, which has 1 human. What is the minimum number of monkeys that track B would have to have to cause you *not* to divert the train?
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@lukeprog@Lewis_Bollard I'm particularly interested in your answers if you don't mind sharing publicly :)5 replies 2 retweets 10 likesShow this thread -
Replying to @moskov @Lewis_Bollard
80% CI: 1sec of monkey experience worth .00001-1.25 of human, given pure hedonic utilitarianism. Monkeys 90% likely conscious; less likely they have advanced self-concept and plans thwarted by ~painless train death. Maybe death also bad for other reasons.
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Replying to @lukeprog @Lewis_Bollard
Out of curiosity how does the CI end up above 1? You think it's possible they have *more* consciousness/moral weight than humans?
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Replying to @moskov @Lewis_Bollard
1] Yes, via several possible paths. E.g. if split-brain patient is intuitively worth 2x, and many non-humans have disunified experience (some evidence for this), we might (with completed scientific understanding) intuitively assign >1x to monkey experience.
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2] Also smaller animals seem to have faster brain clock speeds, and thus may have "more" experience per sec, akin to if you uploaded me and ran me at 2x speed, which intuitively I'd value at 2x per sec.
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Remind me not to get into any zoo enclosures with you, Luke. If it was me or the gorilla, I'm not sure which you'd choose to save...
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Fortunately you seem to have robustly positive flow-through effects, whereas a gorilla's flow-through effects seem negligible.
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Glad to hear it. Though it sounds like it was a close call.
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