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    1. Benedict Evans‏Verified account @benedictevans 26 Dec 2017
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      1910: “Planes are getting much better. I worry they’ll accidentally go into orbit” Aircraft people: “well, that might be possible one day, but not with canvas & props” 2017: “AI is getting much better. I worry it might accidentally turn into general AI” AI people: “well…

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    2. Jeremy Howard‏ @jeremyphoward 26 Dec 2017
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      I believe recent analyses show very little agreement amongst researchers on this topic. @Miles_Brundage is that right? What's the best study to look at re researchers expectations on AI threats?

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    3. Miles Brundage‏ @Miles_Brundage 26 Dec 2017
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      Replying to @jeremyphoward @benedictevans

      Main survey described here https://arxiv.org/abs/1705.08807  Lots more results herehttps://aiimpacts.org/2016-expert-survey-on-progress-in-ai/ …

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    4. Miles Brundage‏ @Miles_Brundage 26 Dec 2017
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      Replying to @Miles_Brundage @jeremyphoward @benedictevans

      there are others but generally smaller and more biased/problematic in various ways (not that this one's perfect, but it's more of a serious effort than most such surveys)

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    5. Jeremy Howard‏ @jeremyphoward 26 Dec 2017
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      Replying to @Miles_Brundage @benedictevans

      Thanks so much for sharing. On the whole it seems to support my contention that there's little agreement in the research community. E.g. this chart:pic.twitter.com/w4bxIyRTqu

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    6. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen 26 Dec 2017
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      Replying to @jeremyphoward @Miles_Brundage @benedictevans

      Interesting that it's 21% of NIPS/ICML 2015 authors. That's actually not a terrible sample of what I'd consider the professional ML/AI community. Hard to argue for anything other than, as you say, "there's little agreement in the research community".

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    7. Miles Brundage‏ @Miles_Brundage 26 Dec 2017
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      And importantly, per paper, they checked that at least based on readily available info, survey responders not much different from non-responders. This was a prob with other surveys.

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    8. Jeremy Howard‏ @jeremyphoward 26 Dec 2017
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      Replying to @Miles_Brundage @michael_nielsen @benedictevans

      Yeah also I recall a similar survey but done at AAAI, which is not where people at the leading edge of the field tend to go nowadays. NIPS/ICLR is exactly the right group to get

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    9. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen 26 Dec 2017
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      Replying to @jeremyphoward @Miles_Brundage @benedictevans

      It was NIPS/ICML, not NIPS/ICLR.

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      michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen 26 Dec 2017
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      (Not that I think this changes your conclusion, of course!)

      4:18 PM - 26 Dec 2017
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